[GREATGTO]

I'm off to work so I'll check for your answers later Jack.

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by GREATGTO

and cost less.

How so?

[JSPONT]

At that level cost is not a factor. If you dont have 30 k to spend on a motor, dont ask.
It's not about the money, As nice as those cars are if they were to sell them, they would be lucky to get 1/2 of what they got in.

By the way the CV1's on Dicks car are not the CV1's any of us could buy and "bolt on" our car. That statement must have been a joke I'm sure.

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by JSPONT

At that level cost is not a factor. If you dont have 30 k to spend on a motor, dont ask.
It's not about the money, As nice as those cars are if they were to sell them, they would be lucky to get 1/2 of what they got in.

By the way the CV1's on Dicks car are not the CV1's any of us could buy and "bolt on" our car. That statement must have been a joke I'm sure.

... I'm not sure what you mean, this is exactly what Dick's engine was meant for, to prove the design makes big power and afterwards have everything CNC ready for future customers, which we do ...

... very easy to make more ...

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by GREATGTO

Oh I know I can't afford it, but neither can 99.9% of pontiac owners lol, my whole point! Thanks for making it.

My heads were 12k, so a cast cv1 head is 10k. And billet will stay put a lot better then cast will.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by GREATGTO

It takes a village to build a cv1 engine. It takes the sale of a village to build Jacks engine.

You have no knowledge what it takes to build a max effort heads up piece. And I didn't ask anyone for a hand out to help build it.

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by JSPONT

At that level cost is not a factor. If you dont have 30 k to spend on a motor, dont ask.
It's not about the money, As nice as those cars are if they were to sell them, they would be lucky to get 1/2 of what they got in.

By the way the CV1's on Dicks car are not the CV1's any of us could buy and "bolt on" our car. That statement must have been a joke I'm sure.

1st off regardless of resale value, who spends more than they need to for anything?

2nd NO Joke... you CAN have exactly identical set at that price.... That is the entire point of the CV1 program. Need bigger ports for bigger motor or higher rpm? The ports are already developed, waiting for a customer. the pricing varies mainly based on cnc time and components selected.! Cant use the capability of this cv 330 port? Chose a port best suited to your combo! Less cnc time = lower cost. Component requirements similarily affects cost.

Brian asked for cost to duplicate and Bill gave him the price! If Brian decided to buy, then thats exactly what Bill and Jim will delIver!

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by GREATGTO

The calculator thing was a joke, I deleted it from my post because someone was sure to take it serious. Dick said Jack can stop at the 1/8 so the race is on as far as I can tell. Jack better be ahead by the 1/8 or he will look like a fool.

Dick is going to race his car ,obviously his times will not be a secret , doesn't matter who he is racing.

How about your car? Will you be racing that? It's been a few years since you said you were going to bust Langers AZZ, how is that plan going?

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... um, Jack, did you forget you have Billet "Mini DRCE Heads" with a billet tunnel ram manifold ? ...

... are you seriously going to quibble over those carbs ? ... give us a break, I'll tell you what, bring your engine to the dyno session and we'll strap em' on your motor and see if they'll make more power than your carbs, how's that ? ...

... will you be happy then ? ...

I could care less about dynos, money spent on my engine. How it performs on the track is the end all.

I'll be happy when I smash every CV1 car out there. Just go start gathering them up.

[Badbird69]

jspont,

My CV-1 heads can be duplicated at the push of a button. Yes, anyone could buy them and bolt them on their car. It's not a joke. Don't confuse them with Jack's ported billet heads that won't ever be duplicated.

Jack's got the bling, but we got the zing - for far less money.

I know which heads I would buy again for my next build. It's a no brainer.

Dick Fulton

[Badbird69]

For many months there has been an outcry from all the CV-1 bashers that we couldn't make 1000 hp. Well, not only did we smash 1000 hp, we did it on 110 fuel. That's right: Nearly 1100 hp with 13:1 compression on 110 fuel. Chew on that for a moment. Can you name any other combos that even come close? Didn't think so.

But even though we have answered the critics' demands, it's still not good enough, is it? This proves once again, that when people are stuck in their beliefs, no argument will sway them. Truth and facts won't change their minds. Therefore, the only way is to defeat them.

When we go back on the dyno with our vacuum issue fixed, we'll play with some Q-16 fuel and some skinny oil, like everyone else has done Should be interesting.

Jack has been running his mouth for the last year or more about how he is gonna donkey stomp me and skull drag me down the track. On a regular basis, he berated the CV-1's, claiming that I would be down at least 150 hp from his”Gaby Who?” Visners. (Gee, how did that prediction turn out?)

Hardly a day went by that he didn't jump into any given thread with a “CV What?” or some snide comment about Jim Sammons and his products, or Bill Anderson and his abilities, or me for choosing CV-1's. He made it Personal and now it's time to put up or shut up.

The reason it will be a full ¼ mile race is because the margin of victory is greatest. There will be no question who the winner is and by how far. It will be recorded and put on youtube for the world to see.

We're coming to Norwalk for you, Jack. So don't be a no-show and don't wuss out in the staging lanes like you did with Robin.

Dick Fulton

I still got $100 that says this race will never happen.

[mjm421]

Originally Posted by Badbird69

For many months there has been an outcry from all the CV-1 bashers that we couldn't make 1000 hp. Well, not only did we smash 1000 hp, we did it on 110 fuel. That's right: Nearly 1100 hp with 13:1 compression on 110 fuel. Chew on that for a moment. Can you name any other combos that even come close? Didn't think so.

But even though we have answered the critics' demands, it's still not good enough, is it? This proves once again, that when people are stuck in their beliefs, no argument will sway them. Truth and facts won't change their minds. Therefore, the only way is to defeat them.

When we go back on the dyno with our vacuum issue fixed, we'll play with some Q-16 fuel and some skinny oil, like everyone else has done Should be interesting.

Jack has been running his mouth for the last year or more about how he is gonna donkey stomp me and skull drag me down the track. On a regular basis, he berated the CV-1's, claiming that I would be down at least 150 hp from his”Gaby Who?” Visners. (Gee, how did that prediction turn out?)

Hardly a day went by that he didn't jump into any given thread with a “CV What?” or some snide comment about Jim Sammons and his products, or Bill Anderson and his abilities, or me for choosing CV-1's. He made it Personal and now it's time to put up or shut up.

The reason it will be a full ¼ mile race is because the margin of victory is greatest. There will be no question who the winner is and by how far. It will be recorded and put on youtube for the world to see.

We're coming to Norwalk for you, Jack. So don't be a no-show and don't wuss out in the staging lanes like you did with Robin.

Dick Fulton

I still got $100 that says this race will never happen.

DIDTHATJUSTHAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mike leech]

[QUOTE=mjm421;5392089]

Originally Posted by Badbird69

For many months there has been an outcry from all the CV-1 bashers that we couldn't make 1000 hp. Well, not only did we smash 1000 hp, we did it on 110 fuel. That's right: Nearly 1100 hp with 13:1 compression on 110 fuel. Chew on that for a moment. Can you name any other combos that even come close? Didn't think so.

But even though we have answered the critics' demands, it's still not good enough, is it? This proves once again, that when people are stuck in their beliefs, no argument will sway them. Truth and facts won't change their minds. Therefore, the only way is to defeat them.

When we go back on the dyno with our vacuum issue fixed, we'll play with some Q-16 fuel and some skinny oil, like everyone else has done Should be interesting.

Jack has been running his mouth for the last year or more about how he is gonna donkey stomp me and skull drag me down the track. On a regular basis, he berated the CV-1's, claiming that I would be down at least 150 hp from his”Gaby Who?” Visners. (Gee, how did that prediction turn out?)

Hardly a day went by that he didn't jump into any given thread with a “CV What?” or some snide comment about Jim Sammons and his products, or Bill Anderson and his abilities, or me for choosing CV-1's. He made it Personal and now it's time to put up or shut up.

The reason it will be a full ¼ mile race is because the margin of victory is greatest. There will be no question who the winner is and by how far. It will be recorded and put on youtube for the world to see.

We're coming to Norwalk for you, Jack. So don't be a no-show and don't wuss out in the staging lanes like you did with Robin.

Dick Fulton

I still got $100 that says this race will never happen.[/QU


DIDTHATJUSTHAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yup. Id think q16 wont help much at 13/1. Be a good test. With vac,oil,carbs etc. sounds like 30 more is lurking.

[Flyin79bird]

Best of luck this year with the new combo Dick! Motor sounds good!

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by Badbird69

jspont,

My CV-1 heads can be duplicated at the push of a button. Yes, anyone could buy them and bolt them on their car. It's not a joke. Don't confuse them with Jack's ported billet heads that won't ever be duplicated.

Jack's got the bling, but we got the zing - for far less money.

I know which heads I would buy again for my next build. It's a no brainer.

Dick Fulton

When I drag your car down the track you will change your tune.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by Badbird69

For many months there has been an outcry from all the CV-1 bashers that we couldn't make 1000 hp. Well, not only did we smash 1000 hp, we did it on 110 fuel. That's right: Nearly 1100 hp with 13:1 compression on 110 fuel. Chew on that for a moment. Can you name any other combos that even come close? Didn't think so.

But even though we have answered the critics' demands, it's still not good enough, is it? This proves once again, that when people are stuck in their beliefs, no argument will sway them. Truth and facts won't change their minds. Therefore, the only way is to defeat them.

When we go back on the dyno with our vacuum issue fixed, we'll play with some Q-16 fuel and some skinny oil, like everyone else has done Should be interesting.

Jack has been running his mouth for the last year or more about how he is gonna donkey stomp me and skull drag me down the track. On a regular basis, he berated the CV-1's, claiming that I would be down at least 150 hp from his”Gaby Who?” Visners. (Gee, how did that prediction turn out?)

Hardly a day went by that he didn't jump into any given thread with a “CV What?” or some snide comment about Jim Sammons and his products, or Bill Anderson and his abilities, or me for choosing CV-1's. He made it Personal and now it's time to put up or shut up.

The reason it will be a full ¼ mile race is because the margin of victory is greatest. There will be no question who the winner is and by how far. It will be recorded and put on youtube for the world to see.

We're coming to Norwalk for you, Jack. So don't be a no-show and don't wuss out in the staging lanes like you did with Robin.

Dick Fulton

I still got $100 that says this race will never happen.

U better hurry up with that dyno queen. Are you going to keep dynoing it at 300 rpm for that big dyno #?

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by Badbird69

For many months there has been an outcry from all the CV-1 bashers that we couldn't make 1000 hp. Well, not only did we smash 1000 hp, we did it on 110 fuel. That's right: Nearly 1100 hp with 13:1 compression on 110 fuel. Chew on that for a moment. Can you name any other combos that even come close? Didn't think so.

But even though we have answered the critics' demands, it's still not good enough, is it? This proves once again, that when people are stuck in their beliefs, no argument will sway them. Truth and facts won't change their minds. Therefore, the only way is to defeat them.

When we go back on the dyno with our vacuum issue fixed, we'll play with some Q-16 fuel and some skinny oil, like everyone else has done Should be interesting.

Jack has been running his mouth for the last year or more about how he is gonna donkey stomp me and skull drag me down the track. On a regular basis, he berated the CV-1's, claiming that I would be down at least 150 hp from his”Gaby Who?” Visners. (Gee, how did that prediction turn out?)

Hardly a day went by that he didn't jump into any given thread with a “CV What?” or some snide comment about Jim Sammons and his products, or Bill Anderson and his abilities, or me for choosing CV-1's. He made it Personal and now it's time to put up or shut up.

The reason it will be a full ¼ mile race is because the margin of victory is greatest. There will be no question who the winner is and by how far. It will be recorded and put on youtube for the world to see.

We're coming to Norwalk for you, Jack. So don't be a no-show and don't wuss out in the staging lanes like you did with Robin.

Dick Fulton

I still got $100 that says this race will never happen.

Lot of truth there if you believe the words (and I do believe Dick Fulton's words) but others will say, especially in track times 'Without a Time Slip it did not happen".

Same deal here if you want to "Race Dynos" "Without a Valid Dyno Sheet it did not happen". A Valid Dyno Sheet being something that you can take into court if necessary to prove that the test did happen and the numbers are accurate under sworn testimony under a Lawyer's examination (for example my Daughter if she were to bring a Slander case against someone). I could use another $100K with minimal lawyer expenses

Tom V.

That being said, I don't think the track deal will ever happen either.

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

My heads were 12k, so a cast cv1 head is 10k. And billet will stay put a lot better then cast will.

... I'm not sure where your math is coming from Jack, but from what has been read on the boards your bare billet heads were $11-$12K ...

... Fulton's bare CV330/Raceplate heads (Complete CNC & with O-Rings) cost $4550.00 ...

... VED Billet Runner TunnelRam is $3500, Roland Racing's CNC TunnelRam is $1950.00 ...

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

Lot of truth there if you believe the words (and I do believe Dick Fulton's words) but others will say, especially in track times 'Without a Time Slip it did not happen".

Same deal here if you want to "Race Dynos" "Without a Valid Dyno Sheet it did not happen". A Valid Dyno Sheet being something that you can take into court if necessary to prove that the test did happen and the numbers are accurate under sworn testimony under a Lawyer's examination (for example my Daughter if she were to bring a Slander case against someone). I could use another $100K with minimal lawyer expenses

Tom V.

That being said, I don't think the track deal will ever happen either.

... humm, Jack never posted his dyno sheet, but you're not questioning his #'s ?? ...

[Tom Vaught]

Do not know what his dyno numbers were so as far as I am concerned I heard from a member that he ran some where. By the way what number did he claim?

You experts on that stuff should know as you are constantly running your mouth about it Bill.

Tom V.