[hurryinhoosier62]

bigunde,

I make statements based on my experience as an engine machinst. Like I have previously stated, the Big Three plus all the engine manufacturers ALL build their share of junk. To label one worse than the others is folly.

[bigunde]

Originally Posted by hurryinhoosier62

bigunde,

I make statements based on my experience as an engine machinst. Like I have previously stated, the Big Three plus all the engine manufacturers ALL build their share of junk. To label one worse than the others is folly.

Agreed.!

[Big Banger]

IH

[455Grandville]

Originally Posted by Big Banger

IH

Now that's a truck

[bigunde]

Originally Posted by Big Banger

IH

No arguement there.

[455Grandville]

Originally Posted by hurryinhoosier62

bigunde,

I make statements based on my experience as an engine machinst. Like I have previously stated, the Big Three plus all the engine manufacturers ALL build their share of junk. To label one worse than the others is folly.

Agree. Fords 2.9 V6 was a head cracking SOB and the 3.8 was one of the most headgasketest eating engines around.

Seems to me up until the last 15 - 20 years Mopar did not make a bad engine

Even IH made a boat anchor (DV-550)

Cummins even has one; the triple nickel

[66Post]

FORD, had a 90 F-150 351 Supercab long bed 2x4 for 14 years, never spent a dime on fixing any drive train related stuff. Had to switch over the AC to 134, replace a fuel pump in the foward tank, paint it, brakes etc. In 2004 I sold it and bought a new 2004 F-150 Supercab 4x4. So far the only thing I have done to it was brakes. I wouldn't buy a Ford car, but I really like the reliability of their trucks. (So does Consumer Reports) compaired to Chevy and especially Dodge.

[bigunde]

Amazing how FACTS can quiet some. LMAO

[hurryinhoosier62]

bigunde,

Saw an AMAZING thing on "American Trucker" last night. NASA owns 4 1967 model Peterbilt 351 "needlenose" tractors. Guess what engine was in them?? Not a "K" series
Cummins or the equivalent 6 cylinder Cat......12V71 Detroits!! Imagine that, a "V" type diesel engine!! Don't they KNOW big hammer wouldn't approve??

[lethal-428-lemans]

I love my 01 Cummins Ram but this is right up there too.

[big hammer]

Originally Posted by hurryinhoosier62

bigunde,

Saw an AMAZING thing on "American Trucker" last night. NASA owns 4 1967 model Peterbilt 351 "needlenose" tractors. Guess what engine was in them?? Not a "K" series
Cummins or the equivalent 6 cylinder Cat......12V71 Detroits!! Imagine that, a "V" type diesel engine!! Don't they KNOW big hammer wouldn't approve??

the more you talk, the more it seems you know nothing at all about industrial engine applications.

[yak]

Originally Posted by big hammer

the more you talk, the more it seems you know nothing at all about industrial engine applications.

these guys on here are living in 1972 dude...remind me to restrict my exhaust ports on any fords i own to get some torque out of it too

[bigunde]

Originally Posted by yak

these guys on here are living in 1972 dude...remind me to restrict my exhaust ports on any fords i own to get some torque out of it too

More schooling i see:
http://phystutor.tripod.com/stang/en...cleveland.html




Cleveland Family Cylinder Heads The Cleveland design cylinder heads are the real trick to the engine's performance. Several versions exist. Monsterous ports are found on the four barrel (4V) variety giving very high flow capacity on an all out race motor. Somewhat smaller ports on the 2V version result in increased low-end torque, perhaps better suited to today's street applications. The combustion chambers were made in closed chamber quench shape, and also in a lower compression open chamber style. Engines designed for hydraulic lifter camshafts use slotted rocker arm pedestals, for non-adjustable rockers. These slots maintain the pushrod alignment. 1971 Boss and 1972 High Output engines featured mecahnical lifter camshafts with flat pedestals for adjustable rocker arms and pushrod guide plates. These heads also have machined valve spring seats for use with mulitple coil valve springs. The high performance heads utilize single groove valve stem locks. Australian heads come in even more variety.

[455Grandville]

Originally Posted by bigunde

More schooling i see:
http://phystutor.tripod.com/stang/en...cleveland.html




Cleveland Family Cylinder Heads The Cleveland design cylinder heads are the real trick to the engine's performance. Several versions exist. Monsterous ports are found on the four barrel (4V) variety giving very high flow capacity on an all out race motor. Somewhat smaller ports on the 2V version result in increased low-end torque, perhaps better suited to today's street applications. The combustion chambers were made in closed chamber quench shape, and also in a lower compression open chamber style. Engines designed for hydraulic lifter camshafts use slotted rocker arm pedestals, for non-adjustable rockers. These slots maintain the pushrod alignment. 1971 Boss and 1972 High Output engines featured mecahnical lifter camshafts with flat pedestals for adjustable rocker arms and pushrod guide plates. These heads also have machined valve spring seats for use with mulitple coil valve springs. The high performance heads utilize single groove valve stem locks. Australian heads come in even more variety.

One things for sure: neither of these guys are engine builders. They're quite good at talking trash and being critical against anything they don't like or understand.

[big hammer]

Originally Posted by bigunde

More schooling i see:
http://phystutor.tripod.com/stang/en...cleveland.html




Cleveland Family Cylinder Heads The Cleveland design cylinder heads are the real trick to the engine's performance. Several versions exist. Monsterous ports are found on the four barrel (4V) variety giving very high flow capacity on an all out race motor. Somewhat smaller ports on the 2V version result in increased low-end torque, perhaps better suited to today's street applications. The combustion chambers were made in closed chamber quench shape, and also in a lower compression open chamber style. Engines designed for hydraulic lifter camshafts use slotted rocker arm pedestals, for non-adjustable rockers. These slots maintain the pushrod alignment. 1971 Boss and 1972 High Output engines featured mecahnical lifter camshafts with flat pedestals for adjustable rocker arms and pushrod guide plates. These heads also have machined valve spring seats for use with mulitple coil valve springs. The high performance heads utilize single groove valve stem locks. Australian heads come in even more variety.

that's more to do with the intake side to keep air\fuel velocity up for increased low rpm torque.

[yak]

and for the people who say ford didn't get bailed out type - who bailed out ford -into google.

[hurryinhoosier62]

big hammer,

YOU NEVER have revealed EXACTLY WHAT it is you do for a living(other than run your mouth). I've machined MORE INSTRUSTRIAL DIESEL ENGINES than YOU'VE EVER
SEEN. WHERE do you gather this "vaunted" knowledge from? My guess is your backside!!

Yak,

EVER HEARD OF EMISSION SPECS??? That is what has killed many successful diesel engines, not the fact they weren't good engines. Try reading up on EPA regs on diesels starting, oh let's say starting about in the 1980s. Little things like sulfur dioxide emissions, particulates, noise...........

[455Grandville]

Originally Posted by hurryinhoosier62

big hammer,

YOU NEVER have revealed EXACTLY WHAT it is you do for a living(other than run your mouth). I've machined MORE INSTRUSTRIAL DIESEL ENGINES than YOU'VE EVER
SEEN. WHERE do you gather this "vaunted" knowledge from? My guess is your backside!!

Yak,

EVER HEARD OF EMISSION SPECS??? That is what has killed many successful diesel engines, not the fact they weren't good engines. Try reading up on EPA regs on diesels starting, oh let's say starting about in the 1980s. Little things like sulfur dioxide emissions, particulates, noise...........

Guess none of 'em heard that's why CAT pulled out of the truck market ; the ACERT was a disaster -

[big hammer]

Originally Posted by hurryinhoosier62

big hammer,

YOU NEVER have revealed EXACTLY WHAT it is you do for a living(other than run your mouth). I've machined MORE INSTRUSTRIAL DIESEL ENGINES than YOU'VE EVER
SEEN. WHERE do you gather this "vaunted" knowledge from? My guess is your backside!!

Yak,

EVER HEARD OF EMISSION SPECS??? That is what has killed many successful diesel engines, not the fact they weren't good engines. Try reading up on EPA regs on diesels starting, oh let's say starting about in the 1980s. Little things like sulfur dioxide emissions, particulates, noise...........

you run your mouth alot. it's obvious you know very little about modern inline diesels, and why the industry vastly prefers them over the old, ****ty v8's.

[hurryinhoosier62]

Brad,

It's pretty apparent that NEITHER of these boneheads has ever "bent wrenches" for a living!!