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Old 12-22-2022, 09:03 PM
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That is really striking car... in and out. That gold interior looks great.. very cool. Even the steering wheel pops.

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Old 12-22-2022, 09:12 PM
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Bid to $37K on BAT... https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...c-firebird-51/

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Old 12-23-2022, 09:32 PM
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This is a frame off car that's done. I wouldn't sell it for $37K, the guy prolly has $75K into it. The only thing wrong with it is the air cleaner decal. Nice car and worth the asking IMO if that's the car you want, because it's a ton of work to rebuild a car to like new. Sad that most of them never see 200 miles after they're over-restored.


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Old 12-23-2022, 11:03 PM
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Really attractive color and nicely restored car. Apart from the engine decal and the 4 wheel drive rear ride height I don’t see much else wrong.

That being said I’m surprised by the price so far for what at the end of the day is a base v8 engined 2 speed auto Firebird with an incorrect conversion to a 4bbl. I’ve noticed in the last two years that 67-69 ragtop birds are really pulling strong numbers. It is especially striking on pedestrian (as opposed to the high demand stuff like 400’s etc) models like this one.

Beauty car though.

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Old 12-24-2022, 03:46 AM
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I think its mostly striking too.
But the Rally Ones aren't working with it.
The HO stripes don't look good on anything.
Hiked up in the azz is weird looking.
Took a hit on left side of rear body near lock and the crack in the decklid is probably a result from that tweak , or when someone tweaked the decklid after the fact to get some alignment back to it.
Calling it a paint crack in the description, but the substrate beneath the paint is what cracked, and the paint follows that.

Fix all the above and change to R2 wheels and whiteline tires and it might get closer to its desired number.

Air cleaner is pointing wrong direction and missing the 1 year only sheet metal preheater tube assy from driver exhaust manifold. Should just get a louvered pie pan breather to go along with the theme.

Could be a classier looking car and fetch more dough , than as it sits.

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Old 12-24-2022, 05:41 PM
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Another pretty car. 68 350 HO Firebird 4-speed in Autumn Bronze located in Alabama at $67.5K (yikes!). It's a beautiful car, but the hot rod dash gauges and aftermarket steering wheel devalue this car a bunch IMO.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/28507718821...Bk9SR_CP-OCoYQ


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Old 12-25-2022, 03:30 PM
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70 T/A 4-speed no engine or transmission in Nebraska at $1 NR. This car is too far gone IMO and whatever it bids up to will prolly be too much. If you started with a nice unrusted base 70 Firebird and made a T/A clone out of it, it would be a better ROI.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/31429073286...Bk9SR_bwgaypYQ


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Old 12-28-2022, 12:20 AM
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70 T/A 4-speed no engine or transmission in Nebraska at $1 NR. This car is too far gone IMO and whatever it bids up to will prolly be too much....
It zoomed up to 5k the first day, but holding at 5100 now.
Lotta work and a Lotta parts for somebody to make that one whole again.
But there are those who are brave enough

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It zoomed up to 5k the first day, but holding at 5100 now.
Lotta work and a Lotta parts for somebody to make that one whole again.
But there are those who are brave enough
I dunno... did you see the bulge in the center of the dash? Looks like this was hit hard. Assume you took that on and did a really good job with a period correct engine and transmission. What would it be worth? How much would you have to put into it? Without the original engine this car is a money pit IMO.


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Old 12-28-2022, 09:54 PM
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I dunno... did you see the bulge in the center of the dash? Looks like this was hit hard. Assume you took that on and did a really good job with a period correct engine and transmission. What would it be worth? How much would you have to put into it? Without the original engine this car is a money pit IMO.

I don't think that is the original dash. Probably just threw it in there to make the car look more complete.

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Old 12-26-2022, 07:33 PM
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Random question... If you owned this car, would you leave the "replicated strobe/flasher lights" on top of it? I for one, would not. An insane $53K BIN in Florida.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/16585208933...Bk9SR5bVkIyqYQ


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I would definitely keep the lights, don't know about keeping it on the car.
The holes would need fixed if off though.


It is relatively rare being a NASCAR car and not just a 25th Anniversary TA.



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Old 12-27-2022, 09:23 PM
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69 Firebird 4-speed FDB dealer car in at $26.5K in Illinois. Looks like a respectable car with some rust. The vinyl top looks like it has rust underneath it. Looks like they took this car in and don't know much about it. The engine is a Pontiac and I would guess it has #48 RAIII heads, but it might be #46? If it is a desirable Firebird or GTO 4-speed block, prolly worth $24K. Seems like the dealer cars are all looking to get $50K for any running restomod first gen Firebird. This one still has the original shift knob... rare to see that. When I was 16 I took the shifter knob off my 70 GTO and replaced it with a Hurst T-handle because it was easy and looked cool.

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Old 12-27-2022, 09:35 PM
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69 Trans AM NM frame off professionally restored in Illinois at $139K. 4-speed car without gauges I would guess is not the norm for 4-speed T/A? if you think about it, if you started with a decent Trans AM numbers matching car, you'd be in at least $60K and prolly more just to start. This car I'm guessing has more than $139K in it. If this is the car you want and you've got big bucks, this is really nice. Not sure if it's $139K nice, but I'm not a 69 T/A expert.

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Old 12-27-2022, 11:49 PM
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Just noticed how off the hood tach is on that red 69.

Where the hood tach should be:


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Old 12-29-2022, 12:11 AM
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My first Pontiac was a 70 GTO 455 4-speed car, so I'm partial to them. 70 GTO 4-speed black/red at $75K in Illinois. Interior is beautiful. Engine has a stupid decal on the air cleaner. Would look better without the Judge stripes. Nice car with Edelbrock aluminum heads.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/11565638363...Bk9SR7aT6MCrYQ


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[QUOTE=thews;6396540]My first Pontiac was a 70 GTO 455 4-speed car, so I'm partial to them. 70 GTO 4-speed black/red at $75K in Illinois. Interior is beautiful. Engine has a stupid decal on the air cleaner. Would look better without the Judge stripes. Nice car with Edelbrock aluminum heads.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/11565638363...Bk9SR7aT6MCrYQ


Auction listing says no longer available, so perhaps it sold. I think it looks great with the red stripes.

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I actually don't mind the steering wheel in that 1968 bird --- it is the incorrect engine paint color that bugs the heck out of me. When someone can't get the engine color right, I always know there are tons of others things they did wrong inside the engine too.

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I actually don't mind the steering wheel in that 1968 bird --- it is the incorrect engine paint color that bugs the heck out of me. When someone can't get the engine color right, I always know there are tons of others things they did wrong inside the engine too.
I have a bigger problem with the cheap PUI repop seat covers than the steering wheel.

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I actually don't mind the steering wheel in that 1968 bird --- it is the incorrect engine paint color that bugs the heck out of me. When someone can't get the engine color right, I always know there are tons of others things they did wrong inside the engine too.
I agree about the wrong engine color on 1966-70 cars. It really puts me off a otherwise good looking car. I also don't mind the steering wheel, as I never cared for the 68 steering wheels.

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