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Old 03-04-2022, 06:20 PM
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Here's a picture. Mounts on headlight switch right behind the dash bezel.
My ground issue was some extra silver paint on my parking lamp plugs.
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Old 03-04-2022, 06:43 PM
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I have my dash (assembled) beside my office computer;
here is where is should be:

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Old 03-04-2022, 07:06 PM
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Thanks Greggdog & Unruhjonny for the pic's! Those are great and I'm thinking it must be there, but we'll check when we pull the upper dash apart this next week to install the new printed circuit.

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Old 03-04-2022, 07:10 PM
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Yep, it's there...you can just make it out in this picture above the original cluster before the dash got pulled.

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Old 03-04-2022, 09:06 PM
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it's one of those pieces that can easily be missed upon reassembly.

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Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing)
2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
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Old 03-05-2022, 05:40 PM
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it's one of those pieces that can easily be missed upon reassembly.
We'll make sure it's there when we pull the insert and cluster to swap out hte printed circuit.

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Old 03-06-2022, 10:04 PM
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here is a well lit picture, the right end of the Z needs to be under the blue gauge divider directly against the metal cluster housing. Might not be the problem but it caused me a couple of odd electrical gremlins.
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Old 03-10-2022, 07:16 PM
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All the gauges are working fine now and we figured out the culprit was old oxidized connections on the original 52 year old dash harness. Unplugging and replugging important connectors several times must have cleaned them off enough to establish better connections again. The headlight switch was also complicit causing the weird glowing lights and spastic gauge movements and reestablishing a good connection seemed to fix those issues too. It's always the simple things that can stump you, but sticking with it and walking away to clear your head can work wonders. Thanks for everyone's help and comments.

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Old 03-17-2022, 08:22 PM
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Checked the bulbs in the new dash gauges & tach, and they are all working. The cell phone doesn't take the best pictures when in really dark conditions.

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Old 03-17-2022, 11:45 PM
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I remember driving my Firebird on the highway at night;
I loved the glow of the gauges.

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Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


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2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
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Old 03-18-2022, 09:34 AM
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Yes, me too! They are bright enough with new standard filament bulbs...not LED's.

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Old 06-11-2022, 09:00 AM
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Finally got the 'CL' 14x7 steel wheels from Steve Johns (Commanche) this past Thursday. We've been trying to get this deal done since 2019 when the borders shut down. So, almost 3 years later, we finally finished the deal. The wheels came off a base Firebird 350 originally from southern Californian then Arizona for most of it's life and are all dated 1/16/70 (my spare CL is 4/09/70). The wheels are original Castilian Bronze as was the Firebirds body color too, and was equipped with the optional trim rings which left only minor scratches due to the lack of moisture and minimal corrosion. The CB paint looks amazing still as does the black backsides. I haven't cleaned them up yet, but will do that before I paint them Lucerne Blue. I'm going to leave the backsides in their original black paint. Thanks Steve for saving them for me!

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Old 06-11-2022, 10:46 AM
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I.too have CL 14 x 7 I have 2 or 3 2 22 dated and 2 later April CL wheels. I misplaced 2 2 22 dated and looking fir 1 2 22 .Does he have 1 a spare tire would be nice too and a trunk mat

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Old 06-11-2022, 11:32 AM
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I.too have CL 14 x 7 I have 2 or 3 2 22 dated and 2 later April CL wheels. I misplaced 2 2 22 dated and looking fir 1 2 22 .Does he have 1 a spare tire would be nice too and a trunk mat
Nope...no spare unfortunately, I just got the 4 wheels, but I have the original 'CL' spare, so don't need one. I'm not concerned about finding matching dates as it was hard enough finding a complete set of 'CL' wheels. I have the trunk mat in mine already (Ames repro).

Looks like you are in good shape wheel-wise...

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Old 06-12-2022, 08:09 AM
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You are most welcome Dennis. Sorry that it took so long to get them to you!
I'm looking forward to seeing them on your Formula
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Finally got the 'CL' 14x7 steel wheels from Steve Johns (Commanche) this past Thursday. We've been trying to get this deal done since 2019 when the borders shut down. So, almost 3 years later, we finally finished the deal. The wheels came off a base Firebird 350 originally from southern Californian then Arizona for most of it's life and are all dated 1/16/70 (my spare CL is 4/09/70). The wheels are original Castilian Bronze as was the Firebirds body color too, and was equipped with the optional trim rings which left only minor scratches due to the lack of moisture and minimal corrosion. The CB paint looks amazing still as does the black backsides. I haven't cleaned them up yet, but will do that before I paint them Lucerne Blue. I'm going to leave the backsides in their original black paint. Thanks Steve for saving them for me!

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interesting;
Almost every CL wheel I can recall seeing was a Motor Wheel stamping;
These are Kelsey Hayes.
The set of four that I bought (undated) were Norris wheels, but considering how hard they seem to be to find, I was happy to get them.
My fifth (the first one I got) was a March date too iirc.

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Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing)
2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
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Old 06-11-2022, 11:25 PM
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An you explain in detail or show me difference of both cl wheel manufacturers

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Old 06-12-2022, 10:09 AM
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the two space saver spares I have here are both 15";
they are both 1979 wheels coded RF

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Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior
A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car.
Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing)
2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
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Old 06-12-2022, 11:13 AM
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the two space saver spares I have here are both 15";
they are both 1979 wheels coded RF
Like this ('78 TA space-saver spare)?

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Old 06-12-2022, 11:33 AM
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yes.
one has a crack on one spot of the rubber sidewall;
It appears as though it may have been used several times.
The other one looks very nice.

IIRC the older ones had two valve stems, or one funny one - these only have one conventional valve stem.

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Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior
A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car.
Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing)
2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
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