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spartazoo · 04-10-2015, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeNoun

The other interesting thing about this promotional photo is that it has "400" rocker panel emblems, and it's missing the GTO quarter panel sticker. I have shots of this same car with the sticker, so I'm guessing they airbrushed it out for this photo.

I came home from the hospital when born in this exact car. voodoo green, black guts, 400 HO, 4spd, 3.90 rear, dealer installed Ram Air.

I am now 45 years old, and would probably buy a 68 voodoo green GTO if I could find a decent one... and not get divorced.

My dad is now 70 (in great shape) and I would love to see him behind the wheel. I already have an exact duplicate of the 66 GTO he traded in when he bought the 68. Another odd twist... I have the original HO exhaust manifolds off his 68 GTO. They are in great shape. Long story how those were acquired.

MikeNoun · 04-10-2015, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Alvin

Yes it could have. Factory photo of 1981 below remind you of any earlier GTO marketing?

Supposed to showcase the "special" parts used on the X-11, and perhaps intimidate the competition (Dodge Omni 024?) to show that the X-11 had many unique parts not found on a regular Citation.

But the scariest thing I see about this is the accessory belt arrangement. This thing had 4 v-belts? Ah..the days before serpentines....

With so little power, they probably would have seen a 20% increase in hp if they threw the belts.

GTOnly70 · 04-10-2015, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeNoun

Well, it could have been worse.

Nothing says "musclecar" like 1930's style fender skirts...

Alvin · 04-10-2015, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GTOnly70

Nothing says "musclecar" like 1930's style fender skirts...

Exactly! Oh wait!!!!

gary bennett · 04-10-2015, 04:41 PM

you cant beat the look of that 57.

John V. · 04-10-2015, 04:42 PM

Once more, "forced" to defend the 1st car I bought new, '80 Phoenix SJ, 4 cyl, 4 speed.

Don't recall the V-belts but it was still carbureted in '80.

The 13" cast aluminum "snowflake" wheels were stolen when the car was about a year old. Pic attached is how I found it in the apartment complex parking lot up on bricks one morning.

I loved it despite its flaws. Special ordered it from Haggerty Pontiac in Villa Park, IL. I purposely chose the 4 cyl over the V6 for better fuel economy. Had over $3000 in options. Sold it in '87 and still wish I had kept it.

I thought the X-11 was toady looking, never liked that sloped roof line. Don't recall seeing the notchback version. Also thought the 4 door Phoenix was ugly. But my 2 dr. coupe was sharp looking, much more formal roof line than even the Citation notchback in the pic Keith posted.

The '80 SJ decals were pretty mild. When I saw the '81 SJ graphics, I wished I had waited.

I'm enough of a sicko that I really think if they had continued the GTO nameplate on the X body from '75 on and the '80 had been a GTO instead of an SJ, I think I would have loved it all the more.

Full disclosure, if I had not managed to get myself broadsided by a Dodge p/u truck (my fault), I would have continued driving my '73 4 spd TA and never thought about the Phoenix. Such is fate.

Alvin · 04-10-2015, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gary bennett

you cant beat the look of that 57.

Yessir, and I'm partial to this Gal's Skirts too.

Alvin · 04-10-2015, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

I do like those wheels, though -

I can only imagine why.

K

Keen Styling Eyes Keith!

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Originally Posted by MikeNoun

Supposed to showcase the "special" parts used on the X-11, and perhaps intimidate the competition (Dodge Omni 024?) to show that the X-11 had many unique parts not found on a regular Citation.

But the scariest thing I see about this is the accessory belt arrangement. This thing had 4 v-belts? Ah..the days before serpentines....

With so little power, they probably would have seen a 20% increase in hp if they threw the belts.

Funny, I thought someone would mention the standard shift clutch disc option shown!

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Originally Posted by John V.

Once more, "forced" to defend the 1st car I bought new, '80 Phoenix SJ, 4 cyl, 4 speed.

Don't recall the V-belts but it was still carbureted in '80.

The 13" cast aluminum "snowflake" wheels were stolen when the car was about a year old. Pic attached is how I found it in the apartment complex parking lot up on bricks one morning.

I loved it despite its flaws. Special ordered it from Haggerty Pontiac in Villa Park, IL. I purposely chose the 4 cyl over the V6 for better fuel economy. Had over $3000 in options. Sold it in '87 and still wish I had kept it.

I thought the X-11 was toady looking, never liked that sloped roof line. Don't recall seeing the notchback version. Also thought the 4 door Phoenix was ugly. But my 2 dr. coupe was sharp looking, much more formal roof line than even the Citation notchback in the pic Keith posted.

The '80 SJ decals were pretty mild. When I saw the '81 SJ graphics, I wished I had waited.

I'm enough of a sicko that I really think if they had continued the GTO nameplate on the X body from '75 on and the '80 had been a GTO instead of an SJ, I think I would have loved it all the more.

Full disclosure, if I had not managed to get myself broadsided by a Dodge p/u truck (my fault), I would have continued driving my '73 4 spd TA and never thought about the Phoenix. Such is fate.

Cool story John. Thxs for sharing.

John V. · 04-10-2015, 05:16 PM

My wife might tell you the Phoenix was fast.

Around '85, she got her one and only speeding ticket while driving it. She was heading to work and was trying to beat a red light.

IIRC correctly, she was nabbed for doing 45 in a 35.

When she got home that night, she told me the story. She was sure she couldn't have been going as fast as the cop claimed because she was in 2nd gear. She wanted to know if I thought it would go 45 in 2nd gear. I assured her that I was certain it could which probably wasn't the first time I didn't agree with her and I'm certain wasn't the last.

Alvin · 04-10-2015, 06:55 PM

Let's get back to some Vintage Pontiac Performance factory photo image brochures, shall we?

Suddenly it's 1965 again!

Alvin · 04-10-2015, 06:57 PM

Alvin · 04-10-2015, 07:00 PM

Alvin · 04-10-2015, 07:06 PM

1966 - Note the upscale fender skirts and wire wheel covers on this "country club bound" 2+2 convertible.

Alvin · 04-10-2015, 07:12 PM

Gotta confess: Grew up around fender skirts on cars in the Desert South West 1st, and later in UpState New Yawk as a kid,...and to this day...I always appreciate the extra effort involved to keep those long 1/4's rust free - especially around the fender skirt areas that'd trap salt, water & rust out.