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I had my 69 T/A at a show and was told that they didn't make a T/A until 70.
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I made that mistake in the mid 80's myself. On a 74 SD Formula.
Glad i wasn't thinking out loud at the time. Ha Ha... it even had a vinyl top to make things worse - in my thoughts. Could have really stuck both feet in my mouth that day. was Wolfgang Feist's pristine Dk.Blue 74 That evening i got the details from a friend about its genuine pedigree. |
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Whatever happened to him? I haven't heard anything about him for years?
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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Still around and pretty sure he still owns it John.
I think I first saw it in Holyoke/Springfield, MA sometime around 1990 or 91?
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Some guys they just give up living And start dying little by little, piece by piece, Some guys come home from work and wash up, And go racin' in the street. Bruce Springsteen - Racing In The Street - 1978 |
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I've already had to explain this to people and my Judge isn't done yet. "They never made white Judges" I have already heard that about ten times now. I figure that I will hear that about 10,000 more times at shows and gatherings. It's not the same subject, but I suspect other Goat owners with a bench seat and column shifter can relate- I never get thru a show or cruise night without at least one expert informing me that my red '68 is a fake because we all know they never made GTOs with a bench seat and a shifter on the column.... You can even try to educate the experts on the 242 and they still can't grasp the concept.
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GREG'S GOATS: 1970 GTO Judge RA-III, 4-SPD & A/C. Power Windows, Power Seat, Power Brakes, Steering, AM/FM, 8-Track, Formula Wheel, Rallye Gauges, Remote Mirror, Numbers Matching. Assembled at Pontiac, MI Plant 5/26/1970. 1968 GTO 461 CI, RA-III heads, Hotchkis springs, UMI suspension, Bilstein shocks, 12-bolt 3.73's. 1966 GTO Ragtop 4-Speed, AM/FM, Original driveline. |
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I was fueling up my black 69 GTO several years back and some kid rolls up on a skateboard and stops to look at my car. First time out of his mouth is "I'm thinking LeMans" I laugh out loud and say "no it's a real GTO" and pointed out the differences between the two. He takes another look around and skates off saying nice car.
The fact that he would blurt that out with his first words took me by surprise. Some peoples kids.... |
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I had my 72 HO convertible out in town shortly after I got it & was putting air in the tires at a station right off the highway when a guy comes walking quickly over to me and looking at the car says "GTO?". I said, "no, LeMans". Disappointed, he walked away.
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Some guys they just give up living And start dying little by little, piece by piece, Some guys come home from work and wash up, And go racin' in the street. Bruce Springsteen - Racing In The Street - 1978 |
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Not a story about one of our Pontiacs, but I had my L79 Chevelle at a show. A guy was looking it over closely and nodding in approval. Then he saw the engine compartment and told his friend, "The guy did a great job restoring it and then ruined it by chroming all that stuff on the engine." I told him it came that way from the factory but I don't think he believed me....
People get an idea in their head as to what is and is not correct and just can't get past it!
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In about a month (when my car gets out of the shop) I'll have the reverse problem.
My 69 non-Judge GTO is painted CR. It sports a spoiler, but no stripes or Judge badging of any kind. I'm guessing there weren't many non Judge CR goats in 69?
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The joker in the deck keeps sending me his card. Smiling friendly, he takes me in. Then breaks my back in a game I can't win. |
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I always support the future of our hobby, especially since they could very well be future buyers (and hence, the future value of our hobby)
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Adam __________________ 1964 LeGTO 469, M21, 3.42 __________________ Sold: 1968 Pontiac LeMans Convertible See it go HERE |
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Current Pontiacs - 1973 Formula SD455 - #'s auto orig paint 1972 Trans Am - 4 speed orig paint 1974 Formula 400 - Ram Air automatic 1966 2+2 convertible - 421 4bbl automatic 1967 Grand Prix - 4 speed orig paint 1967 GTO - 4 speed orig paint 35k orig miles |
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Current Pontiacs - 1973 Formula SD455 - #'s auto orig paint 1972 Trans Am - 4 speed orig paint 1974 Formula 400 - Ram Air automatic 1966 2+2 convertible - 421 4bbl automatic 1967 Grand Prix - 4 speed orig paint 1967 GTO - 4 speed orig paint 35k orig miles |
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I have to laugh.................I frequently get asked if my Judge clone is the real deal.
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69 Judge convertible........clone! Carousel red, parchment, hideaways, TH400, 10" Continental 3200 stall, 12 bolt with 3.42, 469 c.i. with ported #48's, ported cast iron intake, Cliff's Q-Jet and ported 2-1/2" Ram Air manifolds. |
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I also have been told that my 69 GTO is a fake Judge.
My 69 [ I added ] rear spoiler, RAMAIR set up and Hood Tac. No ware on the car is it stripped or does it say JUDGE I tell people. I just tell them you could get those parts back then.
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JUDGE
No...it's a FAKE CLONE...
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color me gone |
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I don't think my survivor Judge has been accused of being a clone, although it has been mistaken for the Dukes of Hazzard and Dazed and Confused cars on many occasions. Shortly after buying the car, I had it at a swap meet and was sitting nearby. A young woman was looking at the car and figured out that the lug nuts were incorrect (they were) and couldn't wait to find me to point that out. She found me and breathlessly (and proudly) announced that my lug nuts were incorrect, loud enough so that anyone within earshot could hear the results of her fine detective work. I told her I knew that, but thanks all the same. Strange.
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69 Judge, SURVIVOR, Carousel Red/Parchment, RAIII, 4-sp, 63k orig. miles, unrestored, #'s match 65 GTO, SURVIVOR, Tri-Power, 4-sp, 79k orig. miles, Capri Gold, orig. paint, top, interior, #'s match 70 GTO Conv, 400, at, A/C, Atoll Blue/Sandlewood/White top, all #'s match 2015 Challenger R/T Plus, hemi, Sublime |
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If someone told me my car was fake, I would reply "no, it's a real car".
George
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"...out to my ol'55, I pulled away slowly, feeling so holy, god knows i was feeling alive"....written by Tom Wait from the Eagles' Live From The Forum |
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1968 LeMans conv. 350 HO - 4 speed triple white (hear it idle here) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVmq...ature=youtu.be 1968 LeMans conv. 350 - 4 speed Solar red/pearl |
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