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12-12-2004, 07:37 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> posted December 11, 2004 07:28 PM
If a little extra plastic means that much to you guys then you need help.
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The car needed help, and the plastic did help. You, on the other hand, seem to be beyound help, but keep trying..
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12-12-2004, 09:30 AM
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Danny wrote: The car needed help, and the plastic did help. You, on the other hand, seem to be beyound help, but keep trying..
Umm...which one looks MORE like the GA? Oh, that's right its the '05. Soon as I get my '05 I'll park it between my '04 GA and my '04 GTO and let you guys decide...I like the '05, not for the plastic but for the power and ride feel.
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12-12-2004, 09:32 AM
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btw: no, I haven't driven the '05 yet but it has 400 hp and I know how the '04 rides and except for the plastic and HP its the same car.
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12-12-2004, 06:38 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> HP its the same <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
But the weight is different...
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12-12-2004, 07:04 PM
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yep, 40 pounds or so lighter, same as the Autocross option on the '04.
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12-15-2004, 07:52 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>40 pounds or so lighter <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You may want to research that, I read it was going to be 50 lbs heavier....
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12-15-2004, 09:13 AM
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Rabon: you already have a 04 GTO? Why are you getting a 05 if you can get the Auto something package?
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12-15-2004, 02:12 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Rabon: you already have a 04 GTO? Why are you getting a 05 if you can get the Auto something package?
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Oh, no. Not the dreaded "Bull****" finding...
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12-15-2004, 06:11 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Goathead:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Rabon: you already have a 04 GTO? Why are you getting a 05 if you can get the Auto something package?
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Oh, no. Not the dreaded "Bull****" finding...  <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't really know what you meant by that, but I only said that statement because he kept saying that the sports package was available for the 2004 with the Auto something Package, doesnt make sense to buy a brand new car just for 50hp.
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12-15-2004, 07:48 PM
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I'm with you, not against you....
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12-15-2004, 10:39 PM
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So just what is it that you think is bull Danny, I'd like to know? I own a black on black '04 GTO purchased in Fort Wayne, Indiana. I posted the pics from the November '03 press release of the AUTOCROSS OPTION PACKAGE on an '04 GTO. Its the same style as you said you were starting to like. I am getting an '05 and I won't be getting it with the AUTOCROSS OPTION PACKAGE because I don't like the package (hate the splitter pipes) and the one that is on order is a blue on blue and the AUTOCROSS OPTION PACKAGE is ONLY available for the black and red goats. Which of these things is bull Danny? The November '03 press release is located on UltimateGTO.com under "press releases" in case you think that is bull. I can give you the VIN numbers on both the '04 black GTO that I currently own and on the '05 blue GTO that is on the way (though I am reluctant to give those online). So what is bull Danny? Is it just that you are jealous that I will shortly have two new GTOs?
In case you missed it, the GTO option package that you posted pictures of and so obviously like is called the AUTOCROSS OPTION PACKAGE and you can find those pics under "press releases" on UltimateGTO.com. The pictures in case you miss it have the 5.7 liter badge on the rear and in case you didn't know the '05 is a 6.0 liter. So what is bull Danny? Tell me, I'd really like to know.
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12-15-2004, 11:27 PM
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Goathead wrote: You may want to research that, I read it was going to be 50 lbs heavier....
Pontiac.com shows the '05 GTO to be 3725 pounds while the '04 GTO is 3770 pounds. That's 45 pounds LIGHTER, in case you thought that was the bull...anyway...I'll be waiting to hear what was bull.
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12-16-2004, 03:34 AM
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Wow, lighter with the bigger motor...wonder what they did to lighten it...wonder if they really did lighten it or if the '04 wt. is with fuel & '05 is without (?) By the way, I just got back from another exhilarating drive --- I love this damn car!!!!
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12-16-2004, 08:23 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>the sports package was available for the 2004 with the Auto something Package, doesnt make sense to buy a brand new car just for 50hp <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Comprenede? That makes no sense to me, just like it does not make sense to you...
Also, bigger motor means more weight. Check out the weight of a LS1 verses an LS2. So, my question is where does the 100 lb weight loss come from?
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12-16-2004, 10:53 AM
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Goathead wrote: Comprenede? That makes no sense to me, just like it does not make sense to you...
If that was your response to me asking "What was bull?"...Then let me ask you this: Do you know of anyone who owns more than one Goat? Ever hear of anyone who likes a car so much that they want to buy two of them? I think these cars are so well built that they will stand the test of time as well as any GTO ever has. In any event, my son is interested in my '04, if you must know.
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12-16-2004, 10:57 AM
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As far as the weight of the '04 versus the '05, the numbers aren't mine. They're Pontiac's. I am just quoting what they published. If you think they're wrong, talk to them about it.
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12-16-2004, 11:39 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> As far as the weight of the '04 versus the '05, the numbers aren't mine. They're Pontiac's. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm not taking any sides here, but manufacturers are known for, how should I say, posting very 'optimistic' data. Somebody who buys an '05 (or an '04) should take it to the scales at the local track and tell us the 'real' numbers.
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12-16-2004, 11:51 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by racerboy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> As far as the weight of the '04 versus the '05, the numbers aren't mine. They're Pontiac's. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm not taking any sides here, but manufacturers are known for, how should I say, posting very 'optimistic' data. Somebody who buys an '05 (or an '04) should take it to the scales at the local track and tell us the 'real' numbers. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
hey, sweet t/a dude.
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12-16-2004, 03:07 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Do you know of anyone who owns more than one Goat? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I own 3 real ones and a Firebird...
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12-16-2004, 05:54 PM
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I've got a couple olf GOtas and a Firebird to boot!
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