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Old 02-15-2007, 11:31 AM
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If aluminum rods were used, I think it has a good chance at surviving. I think I would have filled the block to at least the bottom of the water pump holes though, especially considering the HP level.

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Old 02-15-2007, 11:33 AM
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Oh...and those intake ports are "purdy". Did you have to go to an offset lifter? Looks like the pushrod holes were moved over quite a bit.

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Old 02-15-2007, 12:25 PM
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Larry don't throw them away just hog them out more from your 180cc port! But then that will hurt that "small port velocity" everyone talks about with D ports because the ccs will get closer to E head/ported KRE size.

Looks like head bolt tube as well as pushrod tubes and all that epoxy on top to raise the port, and just a nub of a guide.Bet it's at least 215cc. LOTS of good shaping and grinding there, very nice.

Man my buddies 48s were barely 200 cfm on the intake side, took some moderate porting to even get them to 225.

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Old 02-15-2007, 12:29 PM
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.......think i'll throw my d-ports out the window.....
Ya send them out to Utah and I'll make sure they get tossed..........On my car!!!!

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Old 02-15-2007, 01:01 PM
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Larry don't throw them away just hog them out more from your 180cc port! But then that will hurt that "small port velocity" everyone talks about with D ports because the ccs will get closer to E head/ported KRE size.
Now...Now Skip, lets not turn this into an "apples to oranges" discussion.
Everyone knows that "small port velocity" propels big 4200lb "boats" to mid-11 e.t.'s.

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Old 02-15-2007, 01:18 PM
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127% VE? Very nice!!!!!!!I hit 97% on my last engine and I thought that was good,lol.Very impressive.I want one,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,(whine).

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Old 02-15-2007, 01:29 PM
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very nice head work. i know how much grinding that is involved in those heads. i would guess you have well over 300 hrs in the heads?
Jim, have a flow sheet and dyno sheet you would post?

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Kool Pics Jim, Glad you decided to share.
Like your site, always wanted some R.A.C.E. heads........

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Old 02-15-2007, 03:51 PM
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I just wanted to note these are not those same "small" D ports making big HP before you hard core D port fans start suggesting they are! Kind of like the 310+cfm KRE heads aren't 185cc! It takes a larger port to move that kind of air and make that kind of HP no matter what the material or head that is started with. Obviously a well done head!

I'll bet ALOT of hours and "black boogers" from all that porting!

So got any chamber pictures to see what they look like using such little timing?

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Old 02-15-2007, 05:35 PM
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Hey Jim,

Good Job! Looks like very good work. What minimum CSA did you end up with? It looks like you did a very very good job around the push rod.

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Old 02-15-2007, 06:21 PM
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I just wanted to note these are not those same "small" D ports making big HP before you hard core D port fans start suggesting they are! Kind of like the 310+cfm KRE heads aren't 185cc! It takes a larger port to move that kind of air and make that kind of HP no matter what the material or head that is started with.
Obviously Skip, I think that everyone would agree that 800HP isn't going to be achieved with "small" port D-heads and aren't suggesting that it can.
Let's be honest, would anyone have ever bet that a person could produce those numbers from a iron "doorstop"?
Perhaps "Gach",....but not the regular crowd here.
I'm sure Mr. Robertson has amazed everyone with the numbers and workmanship on those heads.

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Very nice Jim--PONTIAC POWER.

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NICE..... wonder what you could of got if you started with a KRE?

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Wow! Nice job!

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Old 02-15-2007, 08:06 PM
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outstanding job jim. you gonna put that in a true 10 car with a little juice and come play in dallas this year?
looking forward to seeing you up there again
i got something for them dallas boys this year.

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They are some awesome numbers. Congrats.

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NICE..... wonder what you could of got if you started with a KRE?

Probably not nearly as much, because KRE D-ports are only replacement heads for street cars. They were never intended to make horsepower, only to have a place to mount your original valve covers.

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i got something for them dallas boys this year.
Trust me when I say this,,,JD aint "just whistlin' dixie" with that comment!

That thing is loaded for big game!!!

It's all double top secret/cone of silence type stuff.

If I told ya'll any more,JD and Steve would put a contract out on me...


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Once again the double the cfm = approx HP myth is dispelled.

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Old 02-15-2007, 09:09 PM
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We used C-16 VP fuel

The intake port is 218ccs good eye Skip.

Yes we hit everything - water, air, bolts, and pushrods. Pushrods are moved a little over .200".

Very light aluminum GRP rod.

Engine is now in a 71 T/A. It ran low 11s at 3565lbs with the mild 462 that is pictured with the Warrior on the website.

300 hours...Probably close I lost track a long time ago. :-)

Min cross section is right at 2.85sq in

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