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Old 11-21-2011, 07:14 PM
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In-correct.You think you beating an "un-known MOPAR" by 2/10's ONCE means anything?
Ahhhh, Bill... the subtleties of the English language aren't lost on you, are they? I was speaking tongue in cheek.

BTW, that car in the video is now running high 10s banging gears in F.A.S.T. legal trim and isn't quite "un-known", at least out here on the East Coast. Back when that video was shot 5+ years ago we were both running mid 13s and the race could go either way any time we lined up.

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Old 11-21-2011, 08:10 PM
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Ahhhh, Bill... the subtleties of the English language aren't lost on you, are they? I was speaking tongue in cheek.

BTW, that car in the video is now running high 10s banging gears in F.A.S.T. legal trim and isn't quite "un-known", at least out here on the East Coast. Back when that video was shot 5+ years ago we were both running mid 13s and the race could go either way any time we lined up.
So you were/are bragging about beating car that wasn't running correctly?This germane how?

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Old 11-21-2011, 08:30 PM
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Mopar B bodies are awesome. Especially the A12 'Bee & RR. They were clearly built with one thing in mind in 1969. They were faster than the HEMI. The 440+6 was much more common in 1970, in a wider variety of models.

I'd love a 1970 Charger R/T 440+6/4speed in Black with the red bumble bee stripe and the reddish interior. Maybe a 1968 GTX in burgundy with the white interior and a HEMI/4speed.

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Old 11-21-2011, 09:36 PM
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So you were/are bragging about beating car that wasn't running correctly?This germane how?
First, do you understand the concept of "tongue in cheek"?

Second, your reading comprehension is just astounding.:roll eyes: Reread again... slowly. 5+ years ago the red A12 car was consistently a mid 13 car, as was mine. Then the cars owner, Ed, put in a high $$ motor that makes significantly more power than stock. NOW the car runs high tens.

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1969 Bonneville Safari- cross country family cruiser. .
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View from the drivers seat racing down Atco Raceway- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhYDMdOEC7A

Ride along in the other lane-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIzgpLtF_uw
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:11 PM
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[QUOTE=6 Grrrs;4472861] 1)They were faster than the HEMI. 2)The 440+6 was much more common in 1970, in a wider variety of models.
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1)Some run of the mill in-correctly optioned HEMIs,yes.
2)True.Mostly GTXs

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Old 11-22-2011, 01:17 AM
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Red/black vinyl top RR looks like James Cook, though not certain. Ed Cook's(James' father) FAST legal A12 runs 10.60s, Scott McKenzie(FAT A12) is in the 11s.

Ed(black RR) and James 4sp(red with black vinyl top) here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IYD37uVh2w

10.68 and 10.78.

And the REALLY fast F.A.S.T. guys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UcYp3yHw_g


Those guys are haulin' the mail on G70 bias ply tires.
Somehow I skimmed past this before- Yes, that's James in the Youtube video- I think he was 17 at the time. Do you know Ed and Scott? They're great guys, but then most of the F.A.S.T. guys are. Ed's black A12 is retired from racing now- He was talking about putting it back to stock. Ed's running a Max Wedge car now. Dave Dudeck recently sold his car. He's building a new ride now.

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View from the drivers seat racing down Atco Raceway- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhYDMdOEC7A

Ride along in the other lane-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIzgpLtF_uw
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Old 11-22-2011, 08:33 AM
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I bought and owned a 69 Super Bee when I got back from Nam. Mine was green with black stripe. Unsure what the A12 is. Mine was a 383 4 speed. It would do 150 factory.

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Old 11-22-2011, 09:39 AM
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Never have been never will be a fan of Mopars. Were junk when new and even though I can appreciate a nice restored one the interiors on those things just remind me of Grandma in her Scamp. Ugh....

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Mopar B bodies are awesome. Especially the A12 'Bee & RR. They were clearly built with one thing in mind in 1969. They were faster than the HEMI. The 440+6 was much more common in 1970, in a wider variety of models.

I'd love a 1970 Charger R/T 440+6/4speed in Black with the red bumble bee stripe and the reddish interior. Maybe a 1968 GTX in burgundy with the white interior and a HEMI/4speed.

Ahhh...If you're gonna dream, dream in technicolor.
When I was stationed at Ft. Lewis Wash. I drove my Cuda there from Mass. I found a triple green 69 charger RT/SE. loaded. Saw Mt. St. Helens after it blew up with that car. That was a sweet ride!

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I bought and owned a 69 Super Bee when I got back from Nam. Mine was green with black stripe. Unsure what the A12 is. Mine was a 383 4 speed. It would do 150 factory.

...option code "A12" is the 1969 1/2 440-SIX PACK/SIX BARREL version of the Super Bee or the Road Runner...commonly refered to as "lift off cars" because the hood lifts completely off after removing 4 hood pins...approximately 3300 built

...most were very low optioned cars, mine is a "no radio" car
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