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Old 10-15-2012, 08:51 AM
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Why? Low ET wins the race, not MPH.


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Why? Low ET wins the race, not MPH.


Congrats Lil Jack!
I certainly agree who gets there first wins..Some times a hole shot determines the win.......not low ET. Those of us with "heavy" rides need the top end charge (MPH) for a good ET..to make up for so so 660' numbers of heavy car.. My 60 can hit 135 MPH but no 9 second ET slip..

In Jack's case it's a "just because"...

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MPH is crazy.

Nice job!!

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Congrats Jack.
I was starting to get a little worried, cuz you took so dam long.LOL Good job.

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Awesome guys. It must feel good after some of the "opportunities" of the last year. Congrats.

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Congratulations!!!

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Congratulations Jack on hitting the 7 second mark. 7 second Pontiacs are few and far between in comparison to the "other" brands. I'm curious as to the number of hits you made on the car this year to reach your goal?

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Why? Low ET wins the race, not MPH.


Congrats Lil Jack!
Why??? If the other guy hooks up his 174 mph car he has the potential to beat Jacks ET thats why.

Besides he needs a new goal doesnt he??? I dont think Jack plans to just kick back do you???

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Congrats Jack,

Welcome to the street legal 7 second Pontiac club. Took you long enough, lol.

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Old 10-16-2012, 03:32 AM
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... 7 second Pontiacs are few and far between in comparison to the "other" brands...
In comparison to other obsolete brands? Just askin'...

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In comparison to other obsolete brands? Just askin'...
My reference is comparing all other brands.

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Why??? If the other guy hooks up his 174 mph car he has the potential to beat Jacks ET thats why.

Besides he needs a new goal doesnt he??? I dont think Jack plans to just kick back do you???
Yea don't forget he is about 160#s lighter too.

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Old 10-16-2012, 09:18 AM
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Congratulations Jack on hitting the 7 second mark. 7 second Pontiacs are few and far between in comparison to the "other" brands. I'm curious as to the number of hits you made on the car this year to reach your goal?

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I started looking over some of my logs and about 5 passes were last years, so about 32 passes this year. One motor pass, then I had two or three nitrous passes when I had electrical problems. Rewired the car. Went out and started spraying one system. Then started working on two, then turned the plate on before the fogger and that seemed to make a big d.ifference in how the car left. It was NOT that way at Norwalk. The things we learned after Norwalk I am confident we could have gone a high 8.0 or low teen back then.

Ran 4 passes at Yellow Bullet Nationals in 8.50 index, so I dont really consider that tryn to get in the 7s.

So honestly a little over 20 passes to learn what the motor likes and the chassis likes to tune it in the 7s.

I never nipped a plug all year, never changed the head gaskets. I ran a compression test three times and they were all around 175 lbs, except before this last time out 4 and 6 were 150 and 155 lbs respectively.

I don't consider myself some great nitrous tuner, but I can read a plug and adjust and try different things from there. But I am sure that what Gaby did to the chambers and the motor made the tuning window much larger. Which just makes me look good

Thanks also to my pit biotch Woody, a friend since high school and to Brian, Jeff and Mike for all the help at the track. ECMTTFMF!

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My reference is comparing all other brands.

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I put a post on YB in the nitrous section to kinda get there opinion and they all seemed to be impressed with the "small" cubic inches and weight that I did it at.

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I started looking over some of my logs and about 5 passes were last years, so about 32 passes this year. One motor pass, then I had two or three nitrous passes when I had electrical problems. Rewired the car. Went out and started spraying one system. Then started working on two, then turned the plate on before the fogger and that seemed to make a big d.ifference in how the car left. It was NOT that way at Norwalk. The things we learned after Norwalk I am confident we could have gone a high 8.0 or low teen back then.

Ran 4 passes at Yellow Bullet Nationals in 8.50 index, so I dont really consider that tryn to get in the 7s.

So honestly a little over 20 passes to learn what the motor likes and the chassis likes to tune it in the 7s.

I never nipped a plug all year, never changed the head gaskets. I ran a compression test three times and they were all around 175 lbs, except before this last time out 4 and 6 were 150 and 155 lbs respectively.

I don't consider myself some great nitrous tuner, but I can read a plug and adjust and try different things from there. But I am sure that what Gaby did to the chambers and the motor made the tuning window much larger. Which just makes me look good

Thanks also to my pit biotch Woody, a friend since high school and to Brian, Jeff and Mike for all the help at the track. ECMTTFMF!
good job jack and Gaby..

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So honestly a little over 20 passes to learn what the motor likes and the chassis likes to tune it in the 7s.

I never nipped a plug all year, never changed the head gaskets. I ran a compression test three times and they were all around 175 lbs, except before this last time out 4 and 6 were 150 and 155 lbs respectively.

I don't consider myself some great nitrous tuner, but I can read a plug and adjust and try different things from there. But I am sure that what Gaby did to the chambers and the motor made the tuning window much larger. Which just makes me look good
We are in the process of adding the "Special Deck" insert into the E-heads like we have done with the Tigers. To date, this has proven to increase head gasket life, I was curious if you felt this would help?

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I saw pics of it in another thread and it looked nice. I would guess that it would help being a harder material.

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I saw pics of it in another thread and it looked nice. I would guess that it would help being a harder material.
YOUR AGREEING WITH CALVIN!!!

HAVE YOU BEEN DRINKING TODAY!!!!

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Jack I'm NOT trying to discredit your accomplishment... you worked hard to get there. Job well done!

Just asking you dont discredit what Robin has accomplished... he runs under a different set of rules and at much higher altitude. I'm certain at equal weight/ci under same rules/tracks Robin runs it would be quite a match. Even if he is supposedly 160lbs lighter(and that could only be certain if you both drive over the same scale) and going 174 in thinner air I still think he's making more power.

I'm simply suggesting you set a new goal now that you've met your sub 8 goal. GO 174 WITH the ET that mph could get you! THAT's a reasonable goal AND adds to what is already impressive... Then Robin would have to further step up!

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