[67GTO4SPEED]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

Wonder why that was. (;>) Half of the New Generation Ford Guys would think it was a old 427 Wedge engine.

Tom V.

All the fast Mustangs we see at the track have Chevy engines, so seeing a Pontiac in one is a little something different. Everybody knows what Chevy's look like. 😉

[Tom Vaught]

The Chevy Guys are not stupid. Decent engine with a light weight car that hooks well and has good aero is hard to argue with and the Mustangs vehicle Mods work whether the car was built with a V-8 engine or the 4 cylinder mill. The chassis are everywhere and ready to be purchased and modded as a race car.

Tom V.

If I ever raced a Ford it would be either a 1967 fastback Mustang or a Cobra Kit Car and neither one is high on my build list. Just owning a 34 Ford though is very high on the list.

[67GTO4SPEED]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

The chassis are everywhere and ready to be purchased and modded as a race car.

I totally agree with you, but the part of your quote above is why I'm not a fan (for me). Mustangs are just one of those belly button cars.

If I had to put a Pontiac in a Ford car, I'd at least go with a Mercury Capri or Fairmont. Yes, they are little harder to find, but at least it's something you don't see everyday.

All that being said, I have always wanted to build one of those into a Pontiac powered drag car.

[J.C.you]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

Wonder why that was. (;>) Half of the New Generation Ford Guys would think it was a old 427 Wedge engine.

Tom V.

Could have been the big arrowhead on the hood😬

[Colin]

Found a Ford Fairmont for 600...fox body so hey...fox parts+pontiac engine=sleeper. Lol...Now I kinda want to find fairmont wagon

[ponyakr]

Originally Posted by Colin

Found a Ford Fairmont for 600...fox body so hey...fox parts+pontiac engine=sleeper. Lol...Now I kinda want to find fairmont wagon

Hey, they make a decent lookin ride, street or strip.

[Tom Vaught]

Was a couple of guys on the board for years running a Ford Fairmont (Like Glidden's) with a Pontiac Engine and doing very well. Believe Texas Guys.

Tom V.

[RUDOLFSSON]

Back on the original topic... See if I remember some of the tricks I did

I used 72 A-body mounts in mine and two RH factory logs (the driver side facing forward).... I had to clear the frame for oil pan and the pass. side log manifold.
I also added a third joint in the steering shaft, moving it outwards some.... I had to hammer the firewall lower lip in so it would flow with the trans tunnnel.
Behind the Pontiac engine I had a long tail t-400. Big HEI distributor and stock valve covers. This all with RPM intake fits under the stock hood...
Think I used a V6 4.3 '94 radiator out of a Police Blazer.. the bottom of it tilted forward and placed two electric fans behind the GMC grille.

This all came in at 2900lbs w/o driver.... all steel, iron heads, t400, 12 bolt rear, full interior, heavy exhaust etc. w/o driver.

Front to rear ratio was close to 60% though.... could be better with e-heads, batt. relocating etc. for sure..




Kris.

[azbirds]

Definitely do the chevy!! They need some payback for all the stupid swaps they've done. I've thought about a 69 Z-28 with a Pontiac engine but can't get myself to put my name on the title of a chevy. Maybe put the metal on one of my 69 Birds to make it look like one? I'm all for the chevyac!! Good luck.

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by azbirds

Definitely do the chevy!! They need some payback for all the stupid swaps they've done. I've thought about a 69 Z-28 with a Pontiac engine but can't get myself to put my name on the title of a chevy. Maybe put the metal on one of my 69 Birds to make it look like one? I'm all for the chevyac!! Good luck.

Heres an expensive 68 firebird that's been 69 camaro'd .Now its a *hitty chevy. More money than brains example of things that should just not be done.

https://nashville.craigslist.org/ctd/6084255576.html

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by 67GTO4SPEED

I totally agree with you, but the part of your quote above is why I'm not a fan (for me). Mustangs are just one of those belly button cars.

If I had to put a Pontiac in a Ford car, I'd at least go with a Mercury Capri or Fairmont. Yes, they are little harder to find, but at least it's something you don't see everyday.

All that being said, I have always wanted to build one of those into a Pontiac powered drag car.

Those cars are a rare find these days. Even the chev monza. 77 olds starfire had best front nose, followed by Pontiac, then buick, then chevy.

Fox body Merc Capri's and Merc Zephyr's have nicer look than Ford equvilant IMO.

A 32-34 Pontiac coupe with Pontiac power would be very cool...tough body to find though...Sedans are easier to find just not as cool looking.

[67GTO4SPEED]

Originally Posted by BruceWilkie

Those cars are a rare find these days. Even the chev monza. 77 olds starfire had best front nose, followed by Pontiac, then buick, then chevy.

Fox body Merc Capri's and Merc Zephyr's have nicer look than Ford equvilant IMO.

A 32-34 Pontiac coupe with Pontiac power would be very cool...tough body to find though...Sedans are easier to find just not as cool looking.

Yes, those cars are hard to come by these days. Most of the 70's - 80's car didn't survive the scrap price spike of '08-'09 and Cash for Clunkers program. I had to wait quite a while to find my '78 Lemans.
I've been slowly pecking away at it since I got it.

I'm getting closer. I hope to get it on the track this summer.

[RUDOLFSSON]

I'd like to see more 4th gen Firebirds with Poncho power...

[ponyakr]

Originally Posted by 69GTO

I'd like to see more 4th gen Firebirds with Poncho power...

Too much of a hassle. 3rd gens are not that bad tho. There have been quite a few 3rd gen builds, & lots of 3rd gen drag cars.

[67GTO4SPEED]

Originally Posted by 69GTO

I'd like to see more 4th gen Firebirds with Poncho power...

I love the look of those cars, but the cab forward design of the body makes them a bear to work on.

[Colin]

Found a 87 Regal for 700......pretty solid car. I like the body style of those cars a lot

[Jack Gifford]

As long as Pontiac engine swaps are being hashed around...

Since 1959 I've done a few- '37 Buick opera coupe, '60 Falcon 2-door, '57 BelAir hardtop, '57 210 wagon, and '59 GMC- which were all pretty straightforward to accomplish. Also put Pontiac engines into a mini-rod pulling tractor and a drop-tank lakester. And I'm still enjoying driving Wangers' 'Bandit' Suburban with the 455HO.

As for "what-if" swaps... I never have gotten around to the one I've thought about for a long time- a small-but-potent Pontiac V8 (310-330 c.i.?) into a nicely restored '48-'50 Willys Jeepster. No crowding under the hood or floorboards, and a profile (short, high) that would be great for weight transfer.

[pontiac6269]

78 Cutlass Supreme, 455 Pontiac, Turbo 350 and Ford 9" w/ 3.50 gears.

[bpenrod]

Late model El Caminos are cheap also.

[Mr Anonymous]

what makes olds or Pontiac swaps into s10's a little harder than most folks assume, is that the exhaust port side of the head is pointing at the frame rail. To that end, the BBO is an easier swap into an s-10 than an SBO, because of the additional deck height. I know of a guy that went 455 olds over 350 olds because it was a lot easier. I'd save the Pontiac for a different vehicle. That's not to say I haven't considered making a Pontiac s-10 to match my olds one.