[einstein]

Originally Posted by mgarblik

I guess for some reason I never noticed that Tempest Sprint was a 4 door. Wow!! Does anyone know if a stick or auto trans?

It's a 4-speed with bench seat. Not a Sprint, actually. Window sticker says the option is the overhead cam 4-barrel engine, peculiar to 67 only as not being the full Sprint package.

I believe there were 3 Tempest Custom 4-doors built with the 4v and 4-speed, this being the only one with A/C.

[tininjun68]

@kingbuzzo: You've got to plan to make it there and why not next year? It's Pontiac Overload and should not be missed!

[tempest1964]

That white ‘63 Tempest has a hand fabricated aluminum front end. He had a guy in Nebraska build it for him. Unbelievable quality and detail. I spoke to the gentleman at Louisville this year. Super nice guy. The induction was built by my friend John Reeder out of Texas. The owner told me it even has the original style (maybe original) SD radiator.

[3X24SPD]

Radiator & Rear

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Might have been the same craftsman that did the replacement aluminum front end for the Stan Long car after it's rediscovery.

That radiator is shocking . Never seen such an animal as that.
Awesome !

[tom s]

DeWitt make a alu corvette radiator almost the same dimensions of the original 63 SD Tempest radiator.I bought one for a fraction of the price of the 63 and put it in my 63 Tempest wagon some years ago.Looks identical.FWIW,Tom

['ol Pinion head]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

This is the car that launched PHS -

Fred Simmonds and his OHC Tempest.

The rest of the story: https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...8&postcount=75

K

...

The massive amount of time Mr Simmonds spent hand sorting & tabulating engine/transmission Production numbers in various models! Still astounded by this effort!

Met Fred Simmonds for the first time @ 1990 POCI Nats in Lenexa Kansas. Had done a dealership cleanout/big NOS parts stock deal a few months before. Was honored to hand Mr Simmonds a correct NOS muffler for his '66 Sprint, wish had something else that could have given him for his '66.

['ol Pinion head]

Originally Posted by 3X24SPD

Radiator & Rear

Amazing level of craftsmanship. The tanks on that radiator, WOW!

[tom s]

https://www.dewitts.com/collections/...21235702792274
When he did mine he made a change to the lower hose to match the SD unit.Tom

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by einstein

It's a 4-speed with bench seat. Not a Sprint, actually. Window sticker says the option is the overhead cam 4-barrel engine, peculiar to 67 only as not being the full Sprint package.

Out of respect to Fred , there was only one 6cyl 4bbl.
It's listed as
4bbl. 230 cu. inch overhead cam 6 cyl engine
Stripes only available with coupes and convertibles = no stripes on 4 doors.
He does have Sprint fender badges.

Can't imagine the godfather of documentation is parading a fake car. (?)

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

If his BHC doesn't have Code 332 , he is in hot water .

[Jeff Hamlin]

Fred's Tempest is a '67.

In 1967, the 4BC engines were offered as an optional upgrade.
It wasn't the "Sports Package" aka, SPRINT, just the engine.

This was available on any Tempest model,
hence why you might see a few '67 Wagons as well with the 4BC engine.

He knows this and, over the years, took some creative freedom by adding the fender Badges.
His show sign shows all the details.

No Harm No Fowl

[mgarblik]

Originally Posted by Jeff Hamlin

Fred's Tempest is a '67.

In 1967, the 4BC engines were offered as an optional upgrade.
It wasn't the "Sports Package" aka, SPRINT, just the engine.

This was available on any Tempest model,
hence why you might see a few '67 Wagons as well with the 4BC engine.

He knows this and, over the years, took some creative freedom by adding the fender Badges.
His show sign shows all the details.

No Harm No Fowl

Thanks for all the details. What a cool car. So many way to have a car built in a very personal configuration in the 1960's. One of the things that makes that decade so special.

[Andre]

I did my best with the pictures and videos, so thank you.

As best as I understood the white Tempest... aluminum front end. I was told it was a clone. The work looked very similar in quality to the 1963 Wagon that is in the collection of the "Factory Lightweights" here in Stuart Florida that was done by Scott Tiemann. Another local fellow here Mike Glass has an aluminum front end, but won't part with it.
I've known Fred Simmonds for over 30 years as he once lived down here in the Orlando area. For a while I had a one owner 1967 Lemans 4 door OHC6.It was not a sprint, but it had a/c and rally gauges and tilt. Fred's car is a stick car. The 4 door hardtop was Lemans only I think and had the sunken back window, while the 4 door Tempest has a concave back window
Regarding the golf cart issue, we can walk, but there is absolutely no way that we are not going to use a golf cart out there. Why? because we travel back and forth between the car show, swap meet and meeting and chatting with folks in the pits.We probably go from one end of the track to the other end of the swap meet least 4 or 5 times per day. And while Ames had a courtesy shuttle for taking parts to the parking lot, we helped at least a dozen strangers get their heavy and bulky parts to their far away parking spaces. (gratis) though one guy insisted on giving us $$

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Must have been a revision to order sheet perhaps.
On the sheet we get , the only way to get the 4bbl. engine is by checking option 332

Am perplexed now and would like to study his BHC
Hunching it could show 332 and 621

Could be that not only they didn't get stripes on 4 door , but no Sprint emblems either ?
Would be a tough car to find other originals to compare.

[Jeff Hamlin]

AGAIN, Fred's car (IS NOT A SPRINT), the 4BC ohc 6 engine was a $63 (+-) option in '67.
This would NOT include the suspension upgrades and/or body side stripes; it was just an engine upgrade.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Yeh , I read that before I posted.

[Jeff Hamlin]

Just trying to clarify, you know how the misinformation keeps rolling on.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Completely , and for sure.
I'm just always overly-interested in nit picks with or about BHC and Invoice details.

Even if Fred had Judge decals on the 67 , I wouldn't begrudge him.
Anybody else , would have to roast them like a marshmallow.

The Godfather of Documentation

[einstein]

I have the sheet detailing all 24 23369 Tempest sedans built with manual transmissions. Half had the 332 option, half did not, Fred's is in that group. Only three were 4-speeds, and of those, only one (Fred's) has A/C.

He sent me this when I asked about option 332 on his car:

Not a Sprint; just the four barrel option. However, it was built with all the Sprint features: wheel opening moldings, big front sway bar, and Sprint badges. Go figure!