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Old 09-22-2015, 11:47 PM
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Don Henley on Charlie Rose talks about resurgence of vinyl, bandwidth, audiophiles, and more applicable to this OP topic...

Start with this => http://youtu.be/5cPz35UpB_A

"July 18, 2015, Henley started pre-order of his new album, Cass County."
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First Listen: Don Henley, 'Cass County' HERE


Don Henley's new album, Cass County, comes out Sept. 25.

Courtesy of the artist

There are good reasons it might not feel right to describe Cass County as "Don Henley's country album." That terminology could easily connote the carpet-bagging we associate with someone like Steven Tyler making his big country move; plus, no one of Henley's stature likes to give in to the reductionism of genre this late in the game. But scroll through the Cass County credits, and you'll see pedal-steel guitar listed on 14 out of 16 tracks. So maybe, just on that basis alone, it's a safe enough categorization to make — just as long as we recognize that he's not borrowing into the hybrid represented here so much as reclaiming it. To paraphrase an old Bono aphorism: The Garths, Keiths and Kennys of the world stole country-rock, and now Don Henley's stealing it back.

Henley hasn't made many adjustments in his lyrical preoccupations — regret and acceptance, the passage of time, love's fading and bloom — so the album is still more about taking the Long Road Out Of Eden than dirt roads. The real shift is in a degree of acoustic instrumentation not heard in his work since The Eagles' classic sophomore album, Desperado. He still rocks it out a little, in a nervously sensual duet with Martina McBride titled "That Old Flame," as well as in an upbeat album-closer called "Where I Am Now" that marks the first time he's wrapped up any record, solo or Eagles, with a cheerful rocker instead of a rueful, end-of-an-era lament. But for the most part, Henley plays to his traditional ballad-singing strengths, albeit with a pinch more dobro and mandolin adding a sense of Southwestern regionalism to the mix.

On paper, especially, a long list of world-class cameos further tilts the balance away from rock 'n' roll. Pretty much every living female country voice you've ever loved puts in an appearance, either as a duet partner — in the case of McBride, Miranda Lambert and Dolly Parton — or a featured harmonizer (Lucinda Williams, Lee Ann Womack, Trisha Yearwood, Alison Krauss, Ashley Monroe, two out of three Dixie Chicks). He also finds room to squeeze in menfolk Vince Gill, Merle Haggard and Mick Jagger. Looking at this list, you might simultaneously marvel at the assemblage of talent and worry that the album will sag under the sheer value-added weight.

Happily, Cass County, named after the underpopulated area of Texas where Henley grew up, evokes a lonesome state of mind, too, without the all-star guest list turning the reflective material into too much of a party. Henley portrays the end of a marriage in "Take A Picture Of This," a track that trades in the pedal steel for tympani on the way toward becoming a bit more Orbison-esque. "Too Much Pride," meanwhile, has just enough of a wistful R&B feel to recall Ray Charles' 1960s excursion into country (and Western). "A Younger Man" looks at May/December relationships with a jaundiced eye, but it's really a chance for Henley the known idealist to play Henley the cynic, telling a young woman that "If you're lookin' for believers in faith and hope and charity / Then you're lookin' for a younger man, not me." The pluses and minuses of having a few years behind you similarly figure into the duet with Haggard, "The Cost Of Living," as well as "Where I Am Now," where the singer is actually able to opine that "Father Time is a friend." Though the album ends on that anti-nostalgia note, he does turn the clock back to visit the title locale in the boyhood verses of the album's most autobiographical number, "Train In The Distance." Still, by the end of it, he's a grown man who turns restlessly in his bed, wondering whether that far-off railway whistle is a beacon or an omen.

Henley reportedly started recording Cass County years ago as a primarily covers-based project. The remnants of that approach are in the four bonus tracks sprinkled throughout the 16-song deluxe edition — none self-penned, all of them wonderful. The most notable of these is the Dolly Parton duet, on the Louvin Brothers hit "When I Stop Dreaming," which finds Parton briefly stretching herself to become a raspy-voiced belter. If you're foolish enough to settle for the standard edition, you do still get one cover — a contemporary one, of Tift Merritt's "Bramble Rose," with Lambert and Jagger joining Henley as the world's unlikeliest superstar power trio. As the reissue of Sticky Fingers recently reminded us, Jagger is one of the world's great underheralded country singers, and it's a treat to hear him revisit his C&W "roots" here.

As for Henley himself, he's 15 years removed from his last solo album, and seven years removed from The Eagles' final attempt at a group record. So it makes sense that he's finally left that ongoing garden party to head back to the desert. As Cass County proves, it's fertile ground for him.

http://www.npr.org/2015/09/17/440361...ey-cass-county
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Old 09-29-2015, 12:14 PM
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Not vinyl, but analog update: Allman Brothers 1971 Syracuse SUNY concert recording. This is kind of a Duane Allman fan thing and historic stuff.

This pic is not exact show but another from same batch. Also historic right after Duane died. Example of source reels.

I had to have converted analog to CD on 71 show so ABB experts in AL and NE could listen and figure out verify (they both have every known Duane recording about)

early initial review is it is the real thing. This show has been circulated in the trading community on cassette in the old days and now digitally. I have been told incomplete show. Also not high grade. ABB did a commercial archive release a few years ago on CD. I have been told by inside source some songs were subbed from other shows as mixer sound guy was directed by underling to do that (doubt band even knew). (shell game)
This may address that also. Doubt band would want this show from me. My dream would be a vinyl pressing of it as it is good enough to warrant.

waiting more review and analysis.

It may get digital tweaking and then I will putting out for FREE digital enjoyment to all. I will not allow download of degraded source digital so snail mail CD, ha. I'll keep updated and will start thread on when ready. Duane is on fire this show (not long before he died at his peak) and ONLY live version of Blue Sky Dickey Betts new song with Duane doing the album like slide, and Gregg singing more on it also. Source is soundboard so no crowd override noise, subtle. Real deal I am excited now. Stay tuned.


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One of my favorite albums I have is by Jerry Reed specially for this song
To me Vinyl has a better crisper sound
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I bought the Cass County CD...I like it.

I'll never buy another vinyl record, tho, I have fond memories of clicks and pops, don't have to remind myself.

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I bought the Cass County CD...I like it.

I'll never buy another vinyl record, tho, I have fond memories of clicks and pops, don't have to remind myself.

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"I have fond memories of clicks and pops"

You don't have to have any. I have an occasional bad pressing, but off the top of my head, I can think of only two. The rest are pop, tick and click free. I hear more tube rush than I do surface noise.

For a very cheap solution, this will do it.

http://www.okkinokkiusa.com/products...eaning-machine

And there're many others to choose from.


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Not vinyl, but analog update: Allman Brothers 1971 Syracuse SUNY concert recording. This is kind of a Duane Allman fan thing and historic stuff.

This pic is not exact show but another from same batch. Also historic right after Duane died. Example of source reels.

I had to have converted analog to CD on 71 show so ABB experts in AL and NE could listen and figure out verify (they both have every known Duane recording about)

early initial review is it is the real thing. This show has been circulated in the trading community on cassette in the old days and now digitally. I have been told incomplete show. Also not high grade. ABB did a commercial archive release a few years ago on CD. I have been told by inside source some songs were subbed from other shows as mixer sound guy was directed by underling to do that (doubt band even knew). (shell game)
This may address that also. Doubt band would want this show from me. My dream would be a vinyl pressing of it as it is good enough to warrant.

waiting more review and analysis.

It may get digital tweaking and then I will putting out for FREE digital enjoyment to all. I will not allow download of degraded source digital so snail mail CD, ha. I'll keep updated and will start thread on when ready. Duane is on fire this show (not long before he died at his peak) and ONLY live version of Blue Sky Dickey Betts new song with Duane doing the album like slide, and Gregg singing more on it also. Source is soundboard so no crowd override noise, subtle. Real deal I am excited now. Stay tuned.

"My dream would be a vinyl pressing of it as it is good enough to warrant."

Talk to Chad Kassem at Acoustic Sound in Salina KS. He could be real interested in something like this.

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"I have fond memories of clicks and pops"

You don't have to have any. I have an occasional bad pressing, but off the top of my head, I can think of only two. The rest are pop, tick and click free. I hear more tube rush than I do surface noise.

For a very cheap solution, this will do it.

http://www.okkinokkiusa.com/products...eaning-machine

And there're many others to choose from.
Manufactures of records in the 70's and 80's used cheap recycled vinyl and the result is fine particles in your pressing which causes pops and clicks. Just another example of trying to increase profits at the expense of the consumer.

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Manufactures of records in the 70's and 80's used cheap recycled vinyl and the result is fine particles in your pressing which causes pops and clicks. Just another example of trying to increase profits at the expense of the consumer.
True, there were more problems in the late 70s and 80s. One that comes to mind is when Living Stereo became Dynagroove then Dynaflex.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynagroove

Luckily, I worked part time in an audio / record store and would actively exchange when I got a bad pressing. I also had access to the German and Japanese pressings of much of the stuff I bought. I probably had less problems than most, other than the hassle of the original exchange.

The big problem I had on popular rock of that era is poor recordings with compressed dynamic range, strange soundstaging given that the entire band wasn't recorded in the same space at the same time, lousy bass, etc. And sure, this material can be remastered today using really silent vinyl, but it still isn't all that great. The better your playback system, the more you notice. Sad that such great music sounds so bad.

Many of the jazz labels were still pretty good, thinking of Concord and Blue Note.

However, late 60s is when we started seeing the specialty labels such as Sheffield, Chesky, Reference, etc., who did a great job from start to finish, and early MFSLs who did remasters did what they could with the original master tapes, but with great vinyl.

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One great example is RCA LSO 6006, which is the 1959 Harry Bellafonte at Carnegie Hall. I picked it up at Half Price Books Sunday night for $3.00. Not music I especially care for, but one of the great recordings ever with the exception of the occasional sibilance on Bellefonte's voice. Few recordings are betters at transporting you back to that space, Carnegie Hall.

I bought this for the excellent record jacket. Record itself looked pretty good with smudges, fingerprints, light scuffing etc.., but nothing major and it was still in the original 59 sleeve.

Just went down and tried it using only a diskwasher to clean it, and yes it was plenty noisy, but no major clicks, pops or skipping .... lots of little clicks though. I did one thorough cleaning of side one with the Okki Nokki, figuring that probably got played the most, and got rid of 85-90% of the noise. Went back and cleaned it a 2nd time and it's virtually all gone. Background is black and the ambient soundstage of Carnegie comes clearly through.


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Stopped into Rice Village Half Priced Books and did a Lookey Loo in the vinyl section, and had to laugh as they had several cheapo turntables that were flower power embossed and junk BUT had USB outputs...

Was a "Recorded in MONO" Disc 1 and "Recorded in Stereo" Disc 2 offering of an early Beach Boys or Beatles LP set which I passed on...about as silly as a $500 disc cleaner for a $10 LP IMO

Previous post of "Snap/Crackle/Pops" of "Rice Crispies" like vinyl reminded me of '80's paper thin pressings that often contained impurities such as paper which could be seen with the naked eye pressed into the grooves!

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Stopped into Rice Village Half Priced Books and did a Lookey Loo in the vinyl section, and had to laugh as they had several cheapo turntables that were flower power embossed and junk BUT had USB outputs...

Was a "Recorded in MONO" Disc 1 and "Recorded in Stereo" Disc 2 offering of an early Beach Boys or Beatles LP set which I passed on...about as silly as a $500 disc cleaner for a $10 LP IMO

Previous post of "Snap/Crackle/Pops" of "Rice Crispies" like vinyl reminded me of '80's paper thin pressings that often contained impurities such as paper which could be seen with the naked eye pressed into the grooves!
"several cheapo turntables that were flower power embossed"

http://www.musicdirect.com/p-7623-pr...ce=igodigital&

or

http://www.musicdirect.com/p-220540-...turntable.aspx

You can do really cheap turntables such as the above ... especially the above. Set up properly, they're are quite musical.

BUT if you're going to actually play records, and continue to buy them, there's no getting around the record cleaner.

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"LYRICS
Big wheels keep on turning
Carry me home to see my kin
Singing songs about the south-land
I miss 'ole' 'bamy once again
And I think it's a sin
Well I heard Mister Young sing about her
Well I heard ole Neil put her down
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember
A southern man don't need him around any how
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