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Old 01-27-2024, 10:59 AM
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I was at MCACN this year too. I took quite a few pictures of the RAII Birds. Also included a picture of my friends 69 RAIV Firebird unrestored with 21k original miles. I have more detailed pictures of the Birds if interested but they should probably be posted on that thread.

The Verdoro Green on that car looked amazing! I owned a 68 GTO Verdoro Green I bought from the original owner. Verdoro did not look like that back then. Todays paints and clearcoats make the colors "pop" a lot more. The color on that Bird almost looks like it has a gold base to it.
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Old 01-26-2024, 11:54 AM
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White Elephant in the room...
what was build date of this one?

Did the $ amount match the RAII option charge?

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Some more "new" News on Ram II GTO's today .

The "mind blower" / "secretive" Hardtop I had mentioned before in the past - has changed hands and is in a shop for resto.

I imagine by now at least a few guys on here know a little about the car.
It started out as just a block that a PY member landed on - then he tracked down the car - and got it too.

The reason I didn't want to discuss it is because it bends all the rules.
It pre-dates any other known RamAir II car and pre-dates the 05C rule.
I had already signed off on the math , Mattison at PHS has signed off on the car too.
It is Legit

Special build that ordered via Royal Oak
Red , white interior , white vinyl top
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A/C
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Not a typo

See what I mean ?

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Old 01-26-2024, 03:58 PM
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Yes , the math works.
That was something I did about 3+ years ago .

Since I can't access my files , I don't want to rely solely on memory about the build week of the body or the date of the BHC .
But for sure they both pre-date 05C and May 15 rules of thumb.

I won't speak with him again until mid/late next week.

Am of the impression they will be sharing the data on all the cars that I have mentioned that they now own , that are not already fully represented on our Ram2 Bird / Goat Registry lists.

BlueBonnet GTO Vert RamBlue2

MindBlower RedAir2 Air

GreenLantern Firebird RallyAir2

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Old 01-23-2024, 01:04 PM
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With all this talk about new found RA II cars, I thought I would post an update on my car. It is car #6 on the rollcall and a very early car with a 05C build date. I am shooting for the GTOAA nationals in June, but with every day that slips by, I am realizing that it is going to be difficult to make that. I will definitely have it done for MCACN in November. I have test fired the engine and most everything on the chassis is done. I have moved on to the body and cut the doors in last weekend with some Verdoro Green basecoat.
















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Old 01-23-2024, 04:55 PM
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... an update on my car. It is car #6 on the rollcall ...
I can't ever view any pictures from that web host - been that way for a while.
Really glad you keep making gainful progress on your car.
It should be a real wicked machine

Guys , his is one of the three Ram2 GTO's that muscle_collector had stored away for years and years.
Then TheBoss got it
Then 68pongto got ahold of it

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Old 01-24-2024, 12:43 AM
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With all this talk about new found RA II cars, I thought I would post an update on my car. It is car #6 on the rollcall and a very early car with a 05C build date. I am shooting for the GTOAA nationals in June, but with every day that slips by, I am realizing that it is going to be difficult to make that. I will definitely have it done for MCACN in November. I have test fired the engine and most everything on the chassis is done. I have moved on to the body and cut the doors in last weekend with some Verdoro Green basecoat.

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Absolutely beautiful! Sometimes I think I should have a concourse restoration done on my car. However it has 61,000 documented miles (original engine/transmission long gone) and retains a lot of originality (seat covers, dash, headliner, door panels, etc). Some of the reproduction parts do not faithfully represent the originals. I also like to drive my cars, though I have not driven mine much since I got it. The car is a nice high end driver quality in the worst places and #2 in other areas (engine compartment). At my age I just cannot get excited about tackling a full frame off project. The cost to have someone else do it to concourse is probably close to six figures. I have all the correct engine parts (except carb/distributor) and a correct M21 dated 3 to 4 weeks before car invoice date. It retains its original 4.33 rear axle. It also would need a color change from Midnight Green to Verdoro Green.
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What is the earliest date anyone has seen for a 1111941 distributor? I recently acquired a 68 RA convertible 4 speed from original owner and 55,000 documented miles. The car was built first week of November 1967 Baltimore plant. It has its VIN matching XS block (casting is 979250 but no last digit), VIN matching M21, original carb etc. The distributor in it is a 1111941 date code 8 C 7. Obviously it is not original to this car. However it will work for my RA II hardtop invoiced May 31, 1968. Strangely the distributor in that car is the correct one for the RA convertible 4 speed! I guess I am lucky!

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What is the earliest date anyone has seen for a 1111941 distributor? I recently acquired a 68 RA convertible 4 speed from original owner and 55,000 documented miles. The car was built first week of November 1967 Baltimore plant. It has its VIN matching XS block (casting is 979250 but no last digit), VIN matching M21, original carb etc. The distributor in it is a 1111941 date code 8 C 7. Obviously it is not original to this car. However it will work for my RA II hardtop invoiced May 31, 1968. Strangely the distributor in that car is the correct one for the RA convertible 4 speed! I guess I am lucky!

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That’s the earliest 941 and yes, you got lucky

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As the saying goes; Never say never.

Fascinating story BVZ. I'll be waiting for the next episode.

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Old 01-23-2024, 08:29 PM
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Another brief convo today , forgot to ask about a couple of things that I meant to.
Hopefully another time
They are about to hit Barret-Jackson and will be away until next week.

But the Aegena Blue/White/White Convertible 4spd was gathered about a year or so ago.
The kicker is - it was supposedly a known car in certain circles for a good while.
That will definitely be the most attractive drop-top when its done.

The collection has gathered 5 Ram2 cars counting the Aegena Blue Convertible

The others are
Muscle_Collectors former Aegena Blue/Blue Automatic GTO Hdtp
MindBlower Red/White/White Automatic GTO Hdtp (they have coined it as Pilot Car)
Muscle_Collectors former Special Paint- Rally Green Bird 4spd
Special Paint- Windward Blue Bird 4spd

And they hope to add one more Ram2 car .

Plenty of other amazing cars gathered into it as well
Top Shelf Stuff like crazy

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I have had this picture for a while but recently noticed a few details about it. It appears to be Milt behind the wheel. The car also has pinstriping around the rear window and upper rear quarter panel that may be the break point of a contrasting color on the trunk and around window (similar to other Royal Bobcat cars). There is also a pinstripe running along upper edge of fender to middle of door ending with a Bobcat decal. The 681/2 RAM AIR decal almost appears to be "added" to the photo (cut and paste). Car also has a bumper hitch and plates which would indicate a production vehicle instead of a prototype. Also has a rear power antenna which most racers would have not optioned.

It may have been discussed before but in my quest to learn as much about RA II cars does anyone know the full story and if this car still exists?
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I don't have a picture yet. Difficult to get a shot with it installed in the car. However it looks exactly like this one (see pic). I need to talk to the original owner to see how this happened. I have heard folks were not happy with the dual port vacuum advance on the 68 distributors. Possibly he went in to the dealership where he bought the car and asked for a distributor without the dual port (advance/retard)and this is what they sold him for his Ram Air engine?

The original owner wanted a hood tach after he ordered the car. So on the original sales invoice they added a hood tach. The dealer installed the taller 67 style hood tach (car was built first week on November). Probably what they had in inventory.

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My goodness.... That blue one with the stripe. Dream car for me.

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With all the talk about the RA II on Bring a Trailer, I thought I would give an update on my RA II (Car #6 on the registry). The body is pretty much done and I hope to have the Rally II's painted soon and the new G70 redline tires mounted. I still have to complete the interior and trunk. It will be on the Red Carpet display at this year's MCACN show. I have a lot of late nights ahead of me!






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With all the talk about the RA II on Bring a Trailer, I thought I would give an update on my RA II (Car #6 on the registry). The body is pretty much done and I hope to have the Rally II's painted soon and the new G70 redline tires mounted. I still have to complete the interior and trunk. It will be on the Red Carpet display at this year's MCACN show. I have a lot of late nights ahead of me!





I didn’t know there was an RAII car on Bring a trailer

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RAI or II


I posted in the 67/69 Bird section on it.

RA II on Bat


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Thanks for sharing

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That "C" should look like a "G" stamp that was modified. That is how the original was for my RAII Bird.
Can you post pics?

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