[floffy]

Ron/Deanna Aron, please check your mail.

Daan

[janderson]

Aron you have a PM.

[crustysarge]

Look, I here sob stories every day in my line of work. I really don't care, make a deal, keep the deal.

If Ron wants it right send me my money back. If he does not have it all at once then make payments and tell me how much and when and then do it.

I really enjoy how people make this the buyer's fault and poor old Ron who has our money would be in jail in most other scenarios.

No matter how you slice it, when you take money for a product and make a commitment to deliver goods (a contract in my world) and then don't deliver and stop communicating that is theft. People go to jail or get court judgements in the grown up world. You can sugar coat it all you want.

Like I said in the past, I would love to see you pay Summit racing, then Summit never delivers, never tells you anything, but delivers other people's like item, and then asks for more money to cover an expense you alread paid for. How would you react??? Just because it is poor old Ron makes no difference.

You can attempt to make me out to be the bad guy all you want. If you fear your headers will be in jeopardy because of my actions then so be it. Pay me the money Ron owes me and we'll call it even.

[roadrage david]

I have so mutch confidense in Ron that im willinly to sell of the curend set of new in the box Tri-y headers i alredy got they are 1 3/4 round ports for sec gen f body and 68/70 A body.
i wil order a new set of headers, and sponser someone els in line to get theres!!. if intrested contact me tru pm. headers are in the usa at my engine builders place buyer pays shipping.

[aronhk_md]

Nobody here is a thief. Not Ron, not crustysarge.....nobody. This thing where someone owes money or product can make people angry. I understand completely. Whatever crustysarge feels he has to do....he will. Back to business.

oldblueponcho was an old, old order. As with the rest, they are going out 1 by one.

If anyone needs a set of Tri-y's ready to ship tomorrow......Roadrage David has a set right here in the US, in the box. Send him a PM and its on its way.

Anyone else wants a set too......hurry! I'm not kidding when I say the price may change any time.

jesse.....please give me a call, I PMed my # to you.

[janderson]

Originally Posted by aronhk_md

jesse.....please give me a call, I PMed my # to you.

Didn't get a PM.
Try again, shoot me an e-mail or call.


Jess

[oldblueponcho]

Originally Posted by aronhk_md

oldblueponcho was an old, old order. As with the rest, they are going out 1 by one.

Just to make things clear on my headers. As Aron said my order was an old one. I ordered my headers the summer of 06. I repaid the shipping on them also. If there's any further doubt in anybody's mind, I fully intend to order a set of O port headers in the next couple of months once my budget recovers from Christmas.

[grandville455]

I have watched this thread from the beginning , good , and bad, And even tho I have not myself ordered a set I would have to say trying to stop Ron now would not be the right move ,cause everybody involved would loose their money and their chance at getting header's, However I do understand how it is to have a project and not be able to finish cause of hold ups, That in itself is very frustrating.The thing Ron has never did was stop trying! There is very few people in the world that would do what he has and is still doing!! He could have walked away years ago as his wife said, but he didn't! The way I see it if there living basically like they are then pay the shipping for your headers to help them out, whats another 50 bucks when u have already vested 5-700? Least you will have your headers and then u don't have to worry about it anymore. Putting Ron in jail is not the answer, maybe it would make some feel better , but what about all the others waiting? The way I see it their a great product and anyone that has them is very happy with them! JMO

[drtracer58]

Right on Grandville ....................

[crustysarge]

It is on him to communicate. Sound simple to me. All he has to do is tell us something instead of messengers doing it.

[Ducks Goat]

Sorry Grandville but it'll be a little more than $50 in my case since I paid for coating the first go around, that means I'd have to pay for shipping and coating again.

[77TA]

Aron or RA5girl. if i send you money for shipping can Ron get mine built this month?

Thanks
Dewayne

[crustysarge]

I have not recieved any communication from Ron Watt. I tried to PM him but his box will not accept messages. I made one last attempt and emailed him again but doubt he will respond.

Just so everyone understands, I am taking legal action starting next week. Ron Watt chooses this course of action, not me. His failure to provide contracted services, a reimbursement, or even communicate with me (us) is his own doing.

[aronhk_md]

Dewayne....I am really still very confused where your order is concerned. You can PM me, but I have no idea at this point if you are waiting for 2" or 1 3/4.

[aronhk_md]

Guys....honestly, if we argue or get heated in here we are going to do nothing but get this thread shut down. crustysarge is going to do whatever he feels he must, and the rest of us do what we think is best. Lets not do this ok?

[aronhk_md]

I understand your feelings John, but I know from experience that these conversations in here just degenerate. curstysarge is not going to be convinced by you. In fact, it may just make him more hell bent on doing what he says. I have offered to try and get his headers to a coater and make it happen, but he doesnt want to take a partial and temporary further loss to get the headers on their way. And I cant blame him.

Best thing to do is hope he has a change of heart, but in the meantime we just proceed as best we can. I'm a friend of Ron's too.

[johnsma22]

Of course I know you're right Aron. I'll cease and desist. The last thing I want to do is unnecessarily raise the ire of someone in a position to harm Ron.

[roadrage david]

Being from europe and from a ocupied country in WW II. there where a desend groop of people who choose to be members of the german nsdap, over here known as the NSB
National Socialist Movement
. they forsake the dutch country and its people and choose to coleberate with the germans. they had no reguard for there famelies nabours frinds. and put themselfs in front of ""everybody"" up to sutch a point that they grassed on there neighbours who where housing a jew ore a person who refused to partisiopate in the german working force. these people who hide them where ecsecuted at the spot. and there kids send to consentration camps.
afther the war there NSB people got it ROUGHT, and sins then when somebody behaves in a anti sosial way disreguarding other peoples feelings ore welbeing ore anything of that sorts , we call them NSB ers!!. i cant help myself coming up with that term when i see crustysarge saying what he sais and planning on doing the stuf he sais.
It makes me litterly SICK to my stomach................

[aronhk_md]

David.......and crustysarge.......I hope we can just not pursue this in here. Personal attacks are NOT good on the forum. Personal feelings about someone are NOT going to help Ron continue.

[johnsma22]

Ron, if you're reading this, and I hope you are, keep your chin up pal! I believe in you man!!!