[Held for Ransom]

Is it too late to get a head-on shot of the "Keep your GM" decal on the air cleaner?

[RamAir]

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[mmarx]

Great pictures! Does the car still have the original tailpipe tips and brackets? Got to like what is probably a one of one.

[Held for Ransom]

Air cleaner must have been redone. I can't believe the factory would have put a '73 air cleaner decal on, especially with square-cut corners.

[RamAir]

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[Rocky Rotella]

Such a cool car! And I don't wish to be argumentative in the least, but for clarification, blue and green Cordova tops were announced on January 5, 1972 and reached production about February 1.

[RamAir]

That's correct. He requested that color specifically and the factory built it. It started as a '73 regular production color


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[Diego]

I'm confused - if green was a mid-year color, how could it be a "'73 regular production color?"

[RamAir]

That is the claim the owner is making so I am confused as well since that color was indeed available after Jan. 72. Maybe the selling dealer wasn't informed of that production change. That's his story and he's sticking to it. Unbelievable car either way ;-)

[Judge273]

When dealing with the original owners and their stories about the purchase deal. It's always a strange transaction then as it is now.

Imagine a customer with that order, and a saleman going thru the big checklist items.
Anything else?
I Want a green vinyl roof too.
Okay,but I will need to pull some strings with the boss's. I be right back...

[Diego]

I'm going to guess the original owner has been confused for 43 years.

[The Boss]

Originally Posted by Diego

I'm going to guess the original owner has been confused for 43 years.

It really is amazing what your memory will do. Prior to finding the picture of my car I would have sworn that the 70 TA I had over 20 years ago was white - sure enough, it was blue!

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

The Trim Code for Green when it came in for 72 was E / 3.
And believe it was darker by several shades than what subject car is wearing.

Trim Code for Green in 73 was G / 5 and think it was more the Light Jade shade like shown on this car.
Subject car shows Code G on trim tag too.

Guy might have wanted a lighter shade than 72 Code E , and they made it happen ... idunno.

{Based entirely on data from UltimateGTO site .... fwiw}

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

WoW
Thanks to Holeshot71 and RamAir for bringing in 2 more cars so soon !
Will get them sorted and on the Registry here later.

Originally Posted by Holeshot71

Here's the PHS for the Cardinal Red WW5 I bought a couple years ago. Not sure why the option is a different amount than what's been documented here?

I have a hypothesis on the prices (all are higher across the whole board).
Will post about it later and then maybe someone can make it right or wrong.

Originally Posted by RamAir

I'm at the Arthritis Foundation Auto Show in Columbus, Ohio today. An acquaintance of mine has his WW5 here that he bought new with 17000 miles.

Right place at the right time !
Thanks for sharing all the pics and info with us.

[Lloyd-TX]

Man, that is one HELLUVA nice Wilderness Green WW5 car! Simply gorgeous!

Had to replace my keyboard this morning - excess drool!

[Judge273]

Doug, Thanks for those awesome pix too! Plus getting the OO to talk too!

Good thread Captain Baron!

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by Judge273

Doug, Thanks for those awesome pix too! Plus getting the OO to talk too!

Good thread Captain Baron!

Ditto!

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by Holeshot71
Here's the PHS for the Cardinal Red WW5 I bought a couple years ago. Not sure why the option is a different amount than what's been documented here?

On your Invoice - all the amounts are higher on everything, including base price too.

In speculation - I am thinking the Excise Tax Repeal we see mentioned on some Invoices was in active play on your Invoice.

As in, the beginning year model prices ($1012 Auto WW5 Option Cost time period) were further increased by the Excise Tax. Putting your WW5 Auto up to $1039.
This must have only been in effect for a short period before the Excise Tax was repealed effective 12/11/71.
At the same time the excise was repealed , PMD must have also in addition had a full revision of their own A-Body pricing structure as well. Since the WW5 Auto didn't just drop back to $1012 - it went down to $987.
And all associated prices went down lower as well.

Best I can put together without any supporting bulletins or memos at hand.
If we get enough cars , we will probably see some more examples like yours in the same short time period of invoicing.

If the original purchaser of your car had waited about 1 more week to order, they would have saved around $300+/- . Which would be about $3000-4000 in car money today.

Really appreciate you sharing yours with us.
If anyone can further elaborate on the pricings, please do.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

23 WW5 Cars now !

15 - Automatics
8 - 4 speeds

4 - Auto's with Bench Seat & Column Shift
9 - Auto's with AC
4 - 4 speeds with AC
6 - with Stripes
4 - with Cruise Control


$1012
Early Automatics

09/15/71 - VIN A105xxx = Invoice # 074151 = Fort Arthur, TX
Sundance Orange / Ivory Buckets / White Top / AC
*Earliest example , so far
$5587

09/16/71 - VIN P?xxxx? = Invoice # 078327 = Flint, MI
Sundance Orange / Saddle Buckets / Black Vinyl Top / AC / Cruise Ctrl.
*AC Spark Plug Car , Acct # 60-206
$5590

09/24/71 - = VIN P109xxx = Inv# 096534 = Du Quoin, IL
Silver / Black Bench & Column Shift / Black Vinyl Top / AC
$5533

10/04/71 - VIN P114xxx = Inv# 116759 = Skokie, IL
Lucerne Blue / Ivory Bench & Column Shift / Stripes
*This car would be the "Low Price Leader" if it had been Invoiced later using the later price reductions.
$4624

11/23/71 - VIN ?xxxx? = Inv# ?xxxxx? = Sedalia, MO
Shadow Gold / Saddle Buckets
$5332



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$1006
Early 4 speeds

11/19/71 - VIN A130xxx = Inv# 233415 = Franklin, TN
Red / Black Buckets / Stripes / AC
$5467

11/20/71 - VIN P129xxx = Inv# 234050 = South Orange, NJ
Sundance Orange / Ivory Buckets / Stripes / AC
*Special MEMO Invoice
$5308

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$1039
Automatics
Unknown Grey Area
Higher Base Price $2970 versus prior $2904 - and Higher Option Prices across the board

12/03/71 - VIN Pxxxxxx = Inv# 262665 = Allentown, PA
Red / Black Buckets / Black Vinyl Top / AC / Cruise Ctrl.
Body Build Date = 11B
*Hard Loaded with High End Options - 2nd Highest MSRP , so far
$5933

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$987
Later Automatics - After 12/11/71 Price Drops

12/13/71 - VIN P1xxxxx = Inv# 281914 = Penns Grove, NJ
Red / Black Buckets / AC
$5338

01/05/72 - VIN A143xxx = Inv# 315943 = Clark, TN
WildGreen / Green Bench & Column Shift / Black Vinyl Top / Stripes / AC
*Extreme Option Content - 33 options
$5785

01/07/72 - VIN Z104xxx = Inv# ?xxxx? = Van Nuys, CA
Sundance Orange / Black Buckets / AC
*GMAD Company Car , Acct# 60-662
*Double Charged for LS5 455HO on initial Dealer Shipping Record
$5430 (not including $134 overcharge for 455HO "option")

03/08/72 - VIN P166xxx = Inv# 465973 = Vermillion, OH
Sundance Orange / Saddle Buckets / Black Vinyl Top
$4996

? / ? / ? - VIN P168xxx = Inv# ?xxxx? = Bellevue, WA
Gold / Bench Seat & Column Shift (only have the Window Sticker Doc.)
$4672

03/14/72 - VIN A171xxx = Inv# 480131 = Atlanta, GA
Anaconda Gold / Saddle Buckets / Black Vinyl Top / AC
$5431

? / ? / ? - VIN A178xxx = Inv# 528623 = ?? , ?? ( only have upper 3/4 portion of Invoice )
Red / Ivory Buckets (AM radio, Console, Custom Trim,.. thats it.)
*Lowest Option and Lowest Cost WW5 known , so far
$4569

04/25/72 - VIN ?xxxx? = Inv# 574390 = Smyrna, DE
Red / Ivory Buckets / White Vinyl Top
$48x5

06/06/72 - VIN A210xxx = Inv# 668110 = Austin , TX
Monarch Yellow / Ivory Buckets / White Vinyl Top / Stripes / AC / Cruise Control
*Extreme Option Content - 33 options - Highest MSRP , so far
$6043

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$982
Later 4 speeds

01/13/72 - VIN P146xxx = Inv# 336326 = Faribault, MN
Lucerne Blue / Ivory Buckets / White Vinyl Top
$4843

04/03/72 - VIN ?xxxx? = Inv# ?xxxx? = La Crescenta, CA
Adriatic Blue / Ivory Buckets / AC
$5445

? / ? / ? - VIN Pxxxxx = Inv# ?xxxx? = Columbus, Ohio
Wild Green, Green Buckets, Lt. Green Vinyl Top
Body Build Date = 03D / Only have window sticker document for data
*Still with Original Owner - 17,000 actual miles in Fantastic Condition
$5268

04/27/72 - VIN A193xxx = Inv# ?xxxx? = Gaithersburg, MD
Quezal Gold / Saddle Buckets (Only have the buld sheet and trim tag data)
$ 4967 +/- = itemized using option data from Bsheet

06/12/72 - VIN P203xxx = Inv# 682341 = Corvallis, OR
Sundance Orange / Saddle Buckets
$4759

9/22/72 - VIN P142xxx = Inv# 740155 = Paramus, NJ
Red / Ivory Buckets / White Vinyl Top / Stripes / AC
Built Dec 71 - Sold Sept 72
*Car initially special ordered for EXPORT with ALL Seat Belts Delete
*Eventually found a buyer in NJ
$5504

[Holeshot71]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

On your Invoice - all the amounts are higher on everything, including base price too.

In speculation - I am thinking the Excise Tax Repeal we see mentioned on some Invoices was in active play on your Invoice.

As in, the beginning year model prices ($1012 Auto WW5 Option Cost time period) were further increased by the Excise Tax. Putting your WW5 Auto up to $1039.
This must have only been in effect for a short period before the Excise Tax was repealed effective 12/11/71.
At the same time the excise was repealed , PMD must have also in addition had a full revision of their own A-Body pricing structure as well. Since the WW5 Auto didn't just drop back to $1012 - it went down to $987.
And all associated prices went down lower as well.

Best I can put together without any supporting bulletins or memos at hand.
If we get enough cars , we will probably see some more examples like yours in the same short time period of invoicing.

If the original purchaser of your car had waited about 1 more week to order, they would have saved around $300+/- . Which would be about $3000-4000 in car money today.

Really appreciate you sharing yours with us.
If anyone can further elaborate on the pricings, please do.

That's interesting about the Excise tax, I didn't notice the price increase across the board. I was actually thinking MSRP price increase had something to do with the 80 amp alternator.

Is there a way to tell on the PHS how this car was ordered?

Also, I have a couple copies of WW5 PHS sheets that I have come across. They may be something you already have. I will dig them up and PM them to you.

Thanks again for all the great info!