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Old 02-01-2005, 09:19 AM
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Judge Man, Could you give me your estimate on the total number of 1969 Verdoro Green Judges that were produced? Thanks.

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Old 02-11-2005, 09:22 PM
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Judge Man, Here is some more info I was able to find. I located these cars (and in many cases talked to the owners) while looking to find one for sale. I took notes on colors, transmissions, options, etc. - basically anything they told me about their car. It was really interesting hearing the stories.

I have to dig through the original notes to pull out more of the details but this is some of what I have. Keep in mind that this is only for the '69 Judge converts...

Body color/top/interior (# known in this combination)
Carousel Red/Black/Black (7)
Carousel Red/White/White (3)
Carousel Red/White/Black (1)
Carousel Red/Black/White (1)
Carousel Red/?/? (6)
Liberty Blue/Black/Black (2)
Liberty Blue/?/? (1)
Matador Red/Black/Black (2)
Limelight Green/Green/Green (1)
Starlight Black/Black/Black (2)
Starlight Black/White/White (1)
Starlight Black/?/? (3)
Verdoro Green/Green/Black (2)
Verdoro Green/Black/Black (2)
Verdoro Green/?/? (3)
Palladium Silver/Black/Black (2)
Cameo White/Black/Black (1)
Cameo White/?/? (2)
Expresso Brown/?/? (1)
Mayfair Maize/Black/Black (1)
Burgundy/Black/Black (1)
Burgundy/White/Black (1)
Burgundy/?/? (1)
Antique Gold/?/? (1)
Crystal Turquoise/?/? (1)

20 cars had 4-speed's, 9 had TH400's and one had a 3-speed and the remaining cars I have no info on. At least two of the cars had an auto on the column and the 3-speed was a bench seat car.

I can also tell you that only a couple of cars were highly optioned (more than 20) while most cars seemed to only have 8 or less. There were even a few cars that had 4 or less options from the factory.

Give me some time and maybe I can pull some more statistics together on options. Some of the things I remember about the options were:

- Not that many cars came originally with hood tachs
- Gauges weren't that common either
- More cars than I expected had open rear ends
- A/C is a rare option on a Judge convert and only 2 TH400 cars and 2 4-speed cars that I came across had it
- The center console seemed to be popular

More later....

Scott

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Old 01-30-2005, 10:35 AM
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yes ramair III auto

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1 89 formula
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Old 02-01-2005, 09:09 PM
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Look at the sixth message down from the top of this thread.

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Old 01-27-2005, 09:11 PM
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I've come up with 15 HTs and 1 vert in expresso brown.I dont have breakdown with certain engine and color.

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Old 02-06-2005, 08:44 PM
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thanks judgeman

in your opinoin does this color (mayfair maize)de-value the car

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Old 02-09-2005, 09:11 PM
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Judge Man, your estimates are quite interesting. I am trying to gather some production information on '69 Judge converts. How many have you managed to find? I would be interested in seeing a breakdown by color. Do you track anything else on the cars you have found like transmissions, options, interior/top colors, etc?

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Old 01-29-2005, 10:01 AM
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judge man you can take note now that the warwick blue i have will NEVER be sold,hell i have had my 69 convert since 78

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1 75 ta
1 79 formula
1 80 formula
1 81 ta
1 89 formula
1 96 ta
1 66 mustang
1 84 mustang
1 89 25th anniv mustang convert
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Old 02-07-2005, 03:33 PM
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In my opion no.I like the color myself I think the value would go up.Expresso brown is another story I dont like this color,it all depends on whos wanting to buy it and what each persons tast is.

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Old 01-31-2005, 05:34 AM
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i have 2 converts,a judge and a 4 spd hardtop all 69s and a 69 lemans parts car

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2 69 gto converts
1 69 gto htp auto trans
1 69 gto 4 speed
1 69 gto judge
1 75 ta
1 79 formula
1 80 formula
1 81 ta
1 89 formula
1 96 ta
1 66 mustang
1 84 mustang
1 89 25th anniv mustang convert
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Old 01-29-2005, 07:52 AM
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I have 18 HT's in Cameo White and 2 Verts in Cameo White.I dont have any info on breakdown on bench seat cars.So that everybody knows this,I said this brfore these #'s are'nt 100% correct.

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