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#1
11-22-2006, 07:31 PM
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I agree Dr. Doug !
So little info, so many dollars involved. Sheesh, boxes of cereal have more product info than this thing 
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#2
11-22-2006, 08:09 PM
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Dr-Doug, I agree with you completely. I think the reason this car is black is because of the shady deal someone is trying to pull. The all of the comments made by the seller seem very measured and calculated. Like I always say, buyer beware!
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#3
11-22-2006, 06:18 PM
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A rare, highly desireable RAIV JUDGE and a "restored" car. Resto to one is paint and run (for sale) to another.
Even with fresh looking paint on ext I see some "question areas" in engine bay: older looking rad shroud, paint old and faded around hood latch area, top of core support, water spots, inner fenders paint "old" looking, wrong battery. Chrome on valve covers looks old. |
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#4
11-22-2006, 08:11 PM
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what a lousy listing!!!
 lousy photos (why not upgrade from the disposable drugstore camera) lousy info (i.e. none!!!) missing a wheel moulding and wiper arms no judge emblem on glove box (he does not say in his story how he plans to install properly the emblem back on the assembled glove box door-hopefully for 785k he will not clip the pins off and use sticky back tape) repop bucket seat moulding falling off how do you manage to install a ram air 4 aircleaner on crooked (with the second preheater) at least park it so it is not sitting cock-eyed partly on the lawn and partly on the asphalt. i would feel safer going for one of those $6,900 BIN judges than bidding on this car. a few words of advice to the high bidder (assuming he is a legit bidder): hang on to the deposit until you see the: car, title, PHS (get your own copy in case of tampering), before resto photos, "proof" of numbers match (whatever the heck that is), car history, resto bills, etc, etc, etc. (you know, the stuff a guy selling a $10k car is happy to provide up front) someone is going to be a thanksgiving turkey and someone is going to swing the axe  in the name of god, if you really want to get screwed over, have the class to get screwed by a first class scammer who put some effort into fleecing you. 
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#5
11-22-2006, 09:11 PM
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Well let's see who's wrong at this point.
 It's at $155,100 with 8 days left. Where have the prices of these cars gone? I can't believe it.
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#6
11-22-2006, 09:22 PM
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With the new ebay bidding system it makes it hard to spot shill bidding as well.
The old way, every so often you could pick enough "evidence" out to bust em. The craze used to be "resale red" now every black car is "one of one", or "rare black" color. How about coining a new term? Ill start: BOGUS BLACK |
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#7
11-22-2006, 11:16 PM
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I think SWEET is close to the truth on this one. There is a real # RA 4 4spd in Gold/Saddle for sale for 58K and hasn't sold (restored car!) and this is worth how much because of black and judge? I'm just not buying it BUT who knows?
If this is legit then the 37K Atoll Blue/Saddle car on this board should be swept away at that price (you'll be into it for 65K when done?) |
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#8
11-22-2006, 11:18 PM
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Oh yeah the non-Judge Pepper green over saddle mint restored # 4spd ra4 car that can't get ANY bids at $85,000 which buys the car.
Is the Judge worth $100,000 more? For my money no but someone elses maybe. I'm just hoping to the car-gods that this guy really gets his $785,000! My car is going to BJ if it does. |
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#9
11-22-2006, 11:33 PM
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I just couldn't pay this amount for these cars. I know I would rather put the money on a new Ford GT (GT-40) and be happy to drive it.
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#10
11-23-2006, 12:31 AM
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70ra455,
Just wondering about this RAIV car you keep pointing to for $58k. Was it the car that was the subject of the following thread? http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...18#post2629818 If so, the car has been "reviewed" by a PY member that saw the car. Does not have the original engine and while recently painted, was hardly restored. Thus, it ain't going for $58k...
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#11
11-23-2006, 10:37 AM
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I guess that's about the 5th or 6th thing I can cross off the previous list that was wrong. Bad info on that car too. |
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#12
11-23-2006, 01:46 AM
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I think it is the same car! I wonder why one guy said it was in SD where another one said it was in Minn. Nevermind, if that car isn't #'s then the ad is irrelevant.
What about the Pepper Green/Saddle for $85,000 that can't find any bidders? It's frame off and I can't believe that someone would pay $100,000 more for a Judge? But like I said, for everyone their own taste. |
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#13
11-23-2006, 09:10 AM
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Because it's green and it may not have been a nice car once someone laid eyes on it. If that car was nice and it was black, red, blue, silver, or any other desireable color it would have sold.
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#14
11-23-2006, 09:19 AM
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Does anyone know anything about this car?
I agree the Black/Black RA IV 4 speed is the most desirable Judge in 70 right now. Why? Who wouldn't want one? Black/Red is also very desirable too. Then I would go to the Blues next. Although, I like Atoll Blue/Blue best. |
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#15
11-23-2006, 09:23 AM
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#16
11-23-2006, 12:14 PM
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As far as the Pepper Green/Saddle car is concerned that car was at Norwalk and it was mint condition as far as I could tell.
I'm amazed that people would pay double for a car with the "stickers" than one without. Oh well ... that's why it's called a free country! Doug, maybe (I'm just suggesting) that it may be time to let the previous post go and let this post be about this post. ???? Acceptable? |
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#17
11-23-2006, 02:36 PM
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People pay more for Judges because they represent the late 60's and early 70's psychedelic era. With bold colors and stripes that jump right out at you. Just like the Mopars and Fords did with their eye catching colors and stripe packages.
You see one at a show and people who don't even like Pontiacs come over to look at a Judge !! The Black RAIV car that started this thread looks nice. Except for a few nit-picking items it may be a very nice car. The underhood looks a little dusty and that's about it. I down loaded the pics and blew them up. If I was to fly out and look at this car. I would ask the seller if he would be willing to reimburse my travel expenses if it is not optioned as it is being represented. ( and get it in writing). The owner of the car or the seller should help themselves by posting the PHS document. He can make a copy and white out the VIN, the dealer sold to and all the key blank data. People just want to see RA IV and the Judge options as well as the color codes. This would ensure that you are not wasting a trip. Which is a waste of the sellers time and the buyers time. JMHO. HAPPY THANKSGIVING |
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#18
11-23-2006, 05:16 PM
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You park a Ram Air 4 GTO and a Ram Air 3 Judge next to it and watch where people gravitate to. The Judge. It's like the RA 4 is not even there. I don't get it but it's true.
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11-23-2006, 09:06 PM
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#20
11-23-2006, 11:06 PM
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Because everyone knows you can't pound thru the gears on a road in the RA III Judge.
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