[Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Lightfoot

if Tom Fogerty were alive, he would have played with CCRevisited also.

Actually, he could have provided the lead vocal, being his singing voice sounded almost a dead ringer for his brother. No pun intended.
I bet that would piss off John to no end.

Last I knew, Creedence Clearwater Revisited were using the (lefty) lead guitar player from the Cars.

[Cobrabill]

JF was CCR.

[Lightfoot]

I went to see Three Dog Night in 1986 with 3 of the 7 original members:
Corey Wells, Danny Hutton and keyboardist Jimmy Greenspoon.
They were alright, but they couldn't perform most of the songs that are known for Chuck Negron's soulful lead vocal.

In recent years, original guitarist Mike Alsyup (sp) has rejoined their tour, and that is a sentimental improvement but they still need to bury the hatchet and let Negron come back, if he will.

[Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Cobrabill

JF was CCR.

Kinda like saying John Kay was Steppinwolf, but point taken.

[MikeNoun]

I didn't know that about The Guess Who. I always thought their "classic lineup" was Burton Cummings and Randy Bachman, since they wrote all the hits!

"These Eyes" (Bachman/Cummings)
"Laughing" (Bachman/Cummings)
"Undun" (Bachman)
"No Time" (Bachman/Cummings)
"American Woman" (Bachman/Cummings/Garry Peterson/Jim Kale)
"No Sugar Tonight" (Bachman)
"Share the Land" (Cummings)

Yep, I agree, John Fogerty WAS Creedence Clearwater. He wrote all of CCR's hits, and did all the vocals. His talent as a songwriter is only surpassed by his voice, a voice described by drummer Kenny Arnoff as "straight from hell....if Satan could sing, he'd sound just like John."

[MikeNoun]

By the way, it's nice to see so many Pontiac fans are classic rock fans! Great discussion guys!

[Lightfoot]

Bachman left in 1970, while American Woman was racing up the charts.

Their first couple albums post Bachman, were excellent. If you ever get a chance, check out the album So Long Banantyne (1971).

The seldom heard top 40 song Hang On to Your Life is smokin.

[BOPcollector]

Originally Posted by MikeNoun

I didn't know that about The Guess Who. I always thought their "classic lineup" was Burton Cummings and Randy Bachman, since they wrote all the hits!

"These Eyes" (Bachman/Cummings)
"Laughing" (Bachman/Cummings)
"Undun" (Bachman)
"No Time" (Bachman/Cummings)
"American Woman" (Bachman/Cummings/Garry Peterson/Jim Kale)
"No Sugar Tonight" (Bachman)
"Share the Land" (Cummings)

Now those are some great tunes!

[Cobrabill]

Originally Posted by Lightfoot

Kinda like saying John Kay was Steppinwolf, but point taken.

Not quite.JF wrote & sang everything.Speaking of John Kay-i met him too.Even have a spare Rickenbacker poster with him if someone is interested.

[Cobrabill]

They sound like they did in '75

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZa_A...eature=related

[PRC]

You can add the following to the list of classic rock bands with few remaining members.

Yardbirds- (2 original members- drummer and rhythm guitarist)
Thin Lizzy- (2 members from classic line-up,drummer and guitarist)

I saw the current Yardbirds recently and they sounded great but it doesn't seem right when the current singer wasn't even born when the songs were originall recorded. I consider them to be a really good tribute band.

[455Grandville]

Originally Posted by fiedlerh

The Marshall Tucker Band comes to mind. I think Doug Gray is still playing. Once a nationally known act, now relegated to playing local fests, bars, and county fairs. People still want to hear them, just not a huge draw with most of the original members gone. Saw MTB at Carpentersville (IL) fest around 1990. Lead singer was drunk on his ass, but it was free.

One of the major Southern rock bands of the '70s, the Marshall Tucker Band was formed in Spartanburg, SC, in 1971 by singer Doug Gray, guitarist Toy Caldwell (born 1948, died February 25, 1993), his brother bassist Tommy Caldwell (born 1950, died April 4, 1980), guitarist George McCorkle (born 1947, died June 29th, 2007), drummer Paul Riddle, and reed player Jerry Eubanks.

Sad that both Tommy & Toy are dead. I saw them play in the early 90s still a damn good band.

[Cobrabill]

Tommy's death is what ultimately killed Toy.Then his brother Tim died.Can't imagine being their parents.

[Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by PRC

You can add the following to the list of classic rock bands with few remaining members.
Yardbirds- (2 original members- drummer and rhythm guitarist)
Thin Lizzy- (2 members from classic line-up,drummer and guitarist)

Canned Heat- no surviving members
Badfinger- Only lead guitar player Joey Molland is left.
Although Badfinger 'reformed' with Molland and Tom Evans in 1981 to cut a couple singles, they were basically finished when Pete Ham hanged himself in 1975. Evans followed suit with the do-it-yourself noose in 1983.

[joesbird]

I was lucky enough to see Toy Caldwell open up before the Outlaws at the Channel Club in Boston back sometime in the mid/late 80's. I saw Doug Grey and the "new MTB" last year in Portland Me, it was a good show- I think it was $20 to get in - sat 5th row -benefit for the troops. I enjoy seeing Henry Paul playing with the new Outlaws- it will never - never be the same same without Hughie- there are some songs that sound real good Gunsmoke/ Song in the Breeze- but Green Grass just doesn't cut it w/o Hughie. Again - price of admission may be only $25-30. It's still good music- I could see that it could be billed as "Doug Grey" formerly of the Marshall tucker band or something like that- I'd still go see the Henry Paul band- I guess it's only a name. the thing that gets me is when the remaining members of a band are trying to get $100/150 for a ticket to see a show w/o everyone, The Allman Brothers are playing the Orpheum in Boston and tickets are up around $100 without Dicky Betts, to me it's not the same.

Joe

[MikeNoun]

But Badfinger aren't performing anymore, correct? I think this thread was about bands that are still out there trying to play under their original band names when there's only 1 (or no) original band members left.

If Badfinger IS still trying to play, that's pretty sad. Short career, and their success was due to their association with The Beatles. They were a good band though, just didn't have the talent or creativity to last more than a couple albums.

The 21st century version of Badfinger is the band Jet, who sound a LOT like modern version of Badfinger.

[Cobrabill]

Disagree-Badfinger at the time was only outsold by the Beatles.Pete Ham was the driving force behind them.THere was skullduggery afoot then that led to Ham's suicide.Sad day.
As far as the Allman Brothers go,Dickey Betts got himself booted from the band.Would like to know the real reason.But Warren Haynes & Dan Toler make the band worth seeing.Greg hasn't lost a note.

[Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by MikeNoun

But Badfinger aren't performing anymore, correct? I think this thread was about bands that are still out there trying to play under their original band names when there's only 1 (or no) original band members left.

The 21st century version of Badfinger is the band Jet, who sound a LOT like modern version of Badfinger.

That's correct. Yeah, I know it's off topic. I should have stated that Joey still plays alot of gigs, but has the decency to not use Badfinger's name.
Actually, as much as the Beatles helped launch their career, the piss poor managment of Apple Corps was partly responsible for Badfinger's financial problems/ which was one of the reasons Ham committed suicide.

[MikeNoun]

Badfinger was a byproduct of The Beatles. They never would have made it anywhere, except they were signed by Apple, and their albums bore the famous Apple label. They only had 4 hits, none of which were chart toppers. First hit was written by McCartney, recorded as a demo by The Beatles, and given to Badfinger to record verbatim, with absolutely no changes. Their 2nd hit was produced by one of The Beatles inner circle (Mal Evans), their 3rd hit was basically crafted by George Harrison (Day After Day), and Harrison's slide guitar is all over the track. Their 4th (and last) hit was their own (Baby Blue). Then they sank like a stone after that. They were all done by 1973.

I believe I read a long time ago that Pete Ham quit the band because a girlfriend of another member began managing the group (shades of Spinal Tap), then their new label (Warner) refused to promote the band without Pete Ham. He rejoined, but it was all downhill after 1973 anyway.

I put them in the same category as The Raspberries. Great sound, but not enough songwriting talent.

And I like them. People forget that probably their biggest hit, which was a flop when they wrote it, was "Without You", a song that Harry Nilsson (the guy who did "Everybody's Talking", heard on Oldies Stations all the time) heard and thought it was a Beatles song. Nilsson recorded it and took it to #1 (and his version was much better than Badfingers), then Mariah Carey sent this same song again to #1 again in the mid-1990's.

Since I'm a fan of The Beatles, I love all the "satellite" acts too.

[Cobrabill]

I remember there being a stealing money/royalty/a-hole producer thing.