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Old 12-11-2016, 10:18 AM
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Hagerty is open 12-4 today.

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Old 12-11-2016, 11:18 AM
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That certainly does suck, but it's not wrecked. We all know driving on public roads nowadays is probably the riskiest it's ever been, by the sheer number of cars on the road, and by distracted drivers. All the modern electronic safety equipment still cannot account for lack of common sense in driving. My 65 GP was totaled this past August in a combination accident initiated by an 18 girl following her GPS commands a little too literally, and by a tailgater behind me, out on a county highway less than a mile from my home.

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Old 12-11-2016, 12:35 PM
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It sure looks worse from the rear angle shot. The outer wheel housing is bent pretty badly, probably shows it from inside the trunk.
If you don't know yet where you want to take it, ask your Hagerty rep. for any suggestions for your area. They started putting together names of shops that meet their criteria. I am on the list for my region, so they probably have a similar list for yours.
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Old 12-11-2016, 01:35 PM
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The summer of 85, rush hour, construction zone, 2 lanes down to one. He decided to switch lanes CRASH. His Ins. co. totaled the car $4000. I parted the car out made a couple $$$$ more. Then bought my 78 TA which I still have.
Things happen for a reason.


And I still have the trunk lid.
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Old 12-11-2016, 06:38 PM
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Sorry for your loss!

I know you have Haggerty, but shouldn't the other drivers insurance pay for this?

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Old 12-11-2016, 06:59 PM
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Sorry for your loss!

I know you have Haggerty, but shouldn't the other drivers insurance pay for this?
Hagerty will first pay its insured and then subrogate behind the scenes to recoup their money.
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The summer of 85, rush hour, construction zone, 2 lanes down to one. He decided to switch lanes CRASH. His Ins. co. totaled the car $4000. I parted the car out made a couple $$$$ more. Then bought my 78 TA which I still have.
Things happen for a reason.


And I still have the trunk lid.

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Old 12-11-2016, 08:00 PM
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Sorry for your loss!

I know you have Haggerty, but shouldn't the other drivers insurance pay for this?
Hagerty will go after the other insurer for the money. The process is known as subrogation.

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Old 12-11-2016, 06:49 PM
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Wow...HATE to see this David!
Get something out of it for your trouble...like the Verdoro Green paint job of your dreams. Maybe you could insist on sending it to Barr's Restorations. I hear they're pretty good.

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Old 12-11-2016, 07:30 PM
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Wow...HATE to see this David!
Get something out of it for your trouble...like the Verdoro Green paint job of your dreams. Maybe you could insist on sending it to Barr's Restorations. I hear they're pretty good.
That would be a great choice! They did my '66 about 12 years ago, plus they're local to me.

This BS is THE reason I hardly drive my GTO anymore. NOBODY pays attention to the road these days, and I get home more stressed out than before I left.

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Old 12-11-2016, 07:02 PM
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Honestly, picking a shop to fix it is going to be interesting.

As far as the other guy's insurance fixing it, I believe Im going to call Hagerty and let them take care of making sure the other guy's insurance takes care of it.

This was about 2 minutes after the wreck. I took it then called my wife and the phone battery promptly died.

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Old 12-11-2016, 07:20 PM
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Honestly, although it sucks, that could have been much worse. Looks very fixable to my untrained eye.

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Old 12-11-2016, 08:22 PM
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Sorry to see this, but it's totally fixable by a competent body man and there will be no need to get rid of the original sheet metal. I've seen worse pulled and metal finished back to perfection. Good luck with the repairs....just another reality for those of us who actually drive our classic cars, and not a deal-breaker. It'll turn out alright.

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Old 12-12-2016, 02:21 AM
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Dang, sorry to see this. Looks very repairable, but I'm sure that doesn't take the sting out of it. Looking forward to seeing it back on the road in better shape than ever.

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Old 12-12-2016, 08:10 AM
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I'll call Hagerty this morning. Pleasant Grove's PD says the report probably won't be ready until tomorrow (Tuesday).

I'm curious. The rear qtr looks like toast to my eye. It's creased up pretty badly and pushed in 3-4 inches. Basically the whole driver side will need paint. What happens when the damage repair runs into other, already there before the wreck, body issues? I know that there are rust issues under the vinyl roof. If the vinyl roof has to come off and it turns out that repair work is needed before that can be replaced, who eats the roof rust repair? If the whole car needs to be painted who eats making the rest of the body ready for paint....there are small rust issues here and there.
I am not looking for a trailer queen when it gets back from body shop hell.
Lots of questions.......

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Old 12-12-2016, 11:57 AM
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I'll call Hagerty this morning. Pleasant Grove's PD says the report probably won't be ready until tomorrow (Tuesday).

I'm curious. The rear qtr looks like toast to my eye. It's creased up pretty badly and pushed in 3-4 inches. Basically the whole driver side will need paint. What happens when the damage repair runs into other, already there before the wreck, body issues? I know that there are rust issues under the vinyl roof. If the vinyl roof has to come off and it turns out that repair work is needed before that can be replaced, who eats the roof rust repair? If the whole car needs to be painted who eats making the rest of the body ready for paint....there are small rust issues here and there.
I am not looking for a trailer queen when it gets back from body shop hell.
Lots of questions.......
I'm curious to hear body shop owners reply to this one. To some extent I think it's part of the repair to say that you can't put back a bad part or that you must repair surrounding areas. Specifically how would they handle the cost of roof rust when the repair requires a new vinyl top is interesting and I await a qualified reply there.

They won't pay to paint the entire car, at least I don't think so. They'll say a qualified shop can match color. And they can. I know my car has newer, modern paint, which I'm sure made things easier, but you cannot not tell where they blended new to old paint. And my paint is "Viper Blue," which my shop owner told me has its own base color and stuff. He showed me his entire room of color mixing and said he doesn't have the supplies to mix my color in stock. The room was big! And despite all this, the job was done to perfection and with no cost to me (aside from the upgrades I did "while I was in there" like relocating my MSD box and hiding wiring, etc. All totally unrelated to my damage. I have no problem paying for that stuff.

So if you want to paint the entire car while it's in the booth, go for it, but expect to pay a little more for it.

In the end, I think (and hope) you will be totally satisfied with Hagerty and hope you find a body shop that also makes you feel that way.

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Old 12-12-2016, 09:04 AM
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You know what I have seen happen to many nice, stand out car on the street. "Target Fixation" ... the car catches the attention of someone driving near by, they look at it, and they drive into it. Very, very common phenomena that is rarely taught in street driving training these days, but is included in every race driving course you will ever take. Very hard habit to break, even for experienced drivers. Something visual momentarily breaks your focus and your fixate on that object and often steer right into it. Watched it happen many times in motorcycle road races. A small object will be on the track surface, and half the riders will hit it even though they have an entire width of track to ride around it. How do they teach you to avoid this ..... by not looking directly at the object. It's about the only way to prevent it.

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Old 12-12-2016, 10:29 AM
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I could care less what the person behind me is doing...I always know what is around me. I DO care about the a$$hole in front of me

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Old 12-12-2016, 10:51 AM
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That really sucks.

Take your time to get it fixed right, and don't be "pushed" into a shop/repair that you are not comfortable with.

Keep us posted on the progress, and it will all work out to be fine.

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Old 12-23-2016, 06:42 PM
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David,

Sure am sorry. How do you go about finding someone who cares enough to fix it like you would. Bummed out.🤔

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Sorry about your car, interesting to see your experience with Hagerty though, hope the repairs come out to your satisfaction!

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