[ClassicDriverMan]

Originally Posted by Jrp79se

Hey Ron and Aron, where are my headers? Can I expect delivery by Christmas?

+1

Good luck to all of us who are waiting!

Happy Holidays!

[crustysarge]

He doesn't have hundreds of other peoples Dollars, he has thousands....

[73ta]

I'm going back to factory ram air manifolds. My Doug's O ports will be comming off as my new suspension is just too low for them. I'll be posting them for sale soon.

[GTOLou]

this is what this thread reminds me of...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og7-6YubuS4

[Torquewar]

Thanks for posting the pics Larry nice to get a visual. I keep coming back to Dougs after doing some thread surfing the last week.

[77TA-SE]

I've been waiting patiently and positively since June 2005 for my Tri-Y's...finally wrote them off as a bad investment and bought a nice set of coated over-sized RA manifolds. Fit and finish was excellent, and the car seems to have picked up a bit more low-end torque.

I may someday receive my Tri-Y's, and it will be a nice surprise if I do. I hold no malice towards Ron. The man was hit-hard, and was knocked down. He keeps trying to get back up, and hasn't given up fighting. Holding a grudge against him won't change anything. I wish him the best of luck, and hope he truly CAN make it "right" someday with everyone who's sent him money.

[ClassicDriverMan]

Originally Posted by 77TA-SE

I've been waiting patiently and positively since June 2005 for my Tri-Y's...finally wrote them off as a bad investment and bought a nice set of coated over-sized RA manifolds. Fit and finish was excellent, and the car seems to have picked up a bit more low-end torque.

I may someday receive my Tri-Y's, and it will be a nice surprise if I do. I hold no malice towards Ron. The man was hit-hard, and was knocked down. He keeps trying to get back up, and hasn't given up fighting. Holding a grudge against him won't change anything. I wish him the best of luck, and hope he truly CAN make it "right" someday with everyone who's sent him money.

This the situation that I was told about when I ordered a set myself. I was told that my "new" order would get my headers and get an "old" order filled also. I believed Ron and Aron when I was told all of this BS. But alas, it appears I was cheated out of my money and may never see any headers. I ran out of time and had to get headers for my project. I ended up with a set of Doug's. I may have to modify them to clear the steering shaft for my rack and pinion.

I don't have such nice feelings for Ron and his front man. I was ripped off. Plain and simple. How could I be told I would get headers three to four weeks and now going on nine months! All emails and messages are never responded too. No posts here are ever responded too! And they post elsewhere on this site about Turbo Headers?! Give me a break! These thieves are trolling for more suckers to give them money to support their sham of making headers!

Making headers?! Yeah sure! Prove it!

Let me see a pictures of completed headers with proof - the front page of a newspaper with the date showing. Kinda like a hostage picture...

Or anyone can post saying they got their headers dates telling of when ordered and received.

Ron and Aron and their associates should all be charged with theft and thrown in jail. They knowingly ripped me! Yes, he is a terrible business man and a thief as far as I am concerned! All I can say is this is a RIP OFF

And if I have to be nice to him to get the product I paid for..... He can "TURBO" me also as others have said!! If he wants more orders... SIMPLE - DELIVER HEADERS THAT ARE PAID FOR!! Then he will actually get some positive feedback. You cannot take money from people and deliver nothing. That is call STEALING in my world. I guess to Ron and Aron it is called "being a bad business man".

Until headers are delivered this is a RIP OFF

Crustysarge... I wish I had listen to you!!!!!!!

[Sidponcho]

This clown has:

No website
No business address
No phone info
No monitored (or replied to) email

Please tell me where to send my hard earned money!!

[KS circutguy]

Waiting since 2005 June and you're still "hopeful" e gad.
Did a Google search for "Tribal Tubes TRI-Y"
Interesting ;

http://hardcorepontiacs.com/forum/sh...ere-s-a-teaser

http://pontiaczone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14211

Doug's built all of the nice headers (the first batch) that were delivered early on. Tunnel Port Ron thought that Doug was raping him so he went into business for himself...and has yet to deliver as promised. A bunch of you jumped my a$$ for offering support of Doug Thorley over Tunnel Port Ron. You all thought Doug was taking advantage of the Pontiac community. When you order from Doug's Headers and make payment...your headers ship. Who has taken advantage of whom now?

http://www.pro-touring.com/archive/i...p/t-79357.html

[77TA-SE]

Originally Posted by KS circutguy

Waiting since 2005 June and you're still "hopeful" e gad.

Yes, still hopeful. You know why? Because being pissed off and ranting about it won't do any good for me. I've accepted that I'll likely never see them, so all I can do is hope they show up some day. Like me, if there was something that any of you could do to get your money back or to get your headers, you would have already done it. We're all stuck.

It is what it is, and there's no point dwelling on it...move on, and let your Pontiacs be a source of enjoyment and pride, instead of feeling pissed off and cheated every time you see your cars. This is still a great hobby, filled with a lot of really good people.

Money is tight for everyone, but there are so many other worse things going on in the world today.

Merry Christmas to you all.

[Larry Navarro]

Aron has ended up in a bad situation by being the middleman for Ron. Now, his reputation is damaged as a result.
This is the number one reason I only went as far to help Ron by loaning him my set of H-O headers to pattern his Tribal headers.
I had just started marketing my shaker assemblies back then and didn't need "bad press" if the tribal tubes venture went south.
Unfortunately, folks are still owed headers and the possibility of obtaining a set of Tribal Tubes headers for myself are questionable.

[indymanjoe]

I think its sad how these "headers"pop up once in awhile and people get offended etc..mad dogs or dougs..pretty simple and proven.

[lfdsteve]

I gotta retract earlier sentiment and say" shame on you Ron and aarron" this is well beyond acceptable.

Steve

[roadrage david]

Aaron is a ok guy!!. he helpt people out bij his own doing!. nobody forced him ""NOR"" was he involved bisenis wize!.... heard he has other stuf on his mind(private).
Rons has disapeard more then ones . he always comes back. sure it sucks.
got 4 sets off of him in total and stil have 700 usd in there.

[ClassicDriverMan]

Today marks nine months of waiting for these invisible headers!

[indymanjoe]

Originally Posted by ClassicDriverMan

Today marks nine months of waiting for these invisible headers!

there right next to the mailbox,its hard to see them.you need your invisible goggles..sorry it was too easy

[73ta]

Just like I said in 2006! Bad business model turns into a chain header scheme! First guys in get headers, last guys in get nothing!

[JKGTO]

Originally Posted by 73ta

Just like I said in 2006! Bad business model turns into a chain header scheme! First guys in get headers, last guys in get nothing!

Not quite correct. Im one of the first guys-2005-and still have nothing to show for my hard earned money. I wont trust anyone I havent dealt with before again. Jim

[Torquewar]

Hey everyone thought i would post some positive info. I recieved a message from Ron asking for some shipping info .
He is ready to ship mine and others next week. Im happy that contact has been made because its been 4 months.Communication is all i wanted in the transaction.
Very hopefull this all happens quickly,im very eager to order other parts of my system.
As i have said ,hope he is bending cutting/welding getting the product out to guys. Will post and keep you informed.

[GTOWAGON]

Are the tribal tubes stainless steel