[STALLION]

Originally Posted by Ken C

The following is a list of the Fastest Naturally Aspirated Pontiacs of all time
Kevin Swaney [email protected] Rear Engine Dragster Naturally Aspirated Single Dominator on GAS Norwalk 2007

Scott Rex [email protected] Cecil County Dragway 10-2007 Naturally Aspirated 1997 Firebird

Jeff Kauffman 7.49 @ 175 NA Norwalk 2000

Todd Filson 7.65@175 Rear Engine Dragster Naturally Aspirated

Todd Fontana 7.58@174 Rear Engine Dragster Naturally Aspirated Single Dominator

Rod Page [email protected] Single Dominator Victor Rear Engine Dragster

Frank Gostyla [email protected] 2002 Grand Am 11-11-2006 Cecil County Dragway Naturally Aspirated Single Dominator
Jack Gaydosh [email protected] 2000 Firebird 11-11-2006 Cecil County Dragway Naturally Aspirated
Jim Brady 7.72@174 Rear Engine Dragster Single Alcohol Dominator

Mark Pickett 7.97 @ 171 1st 7 second NA door slammer May 2002

Shane Molinari 8.01 @ 168 601 cid NA 1968 LeMans

Mr Langer You said KRE wasn't even in the top five how come you are not in this list you probably can't make the top 20 . There are five KRE cars in the top 11 on this list and Stallion will be close to the top before the year is over. You won't come to Norwalk because you are just another 8.5 second door car their it's not the John Langer show anymore you are just one of the pack .IF YOU DON'T LIKE THIS POST TOUGH YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE STARTED IT.
KEN
HAVE A GREAT DAY

Ken, Thanks for the kind words. I am trying to be with the really fast guys. I hope Norwalk will be the place. Don't forget Jimmy Jemmal 8:08 @ 168 with a 400 block N/A and of course my son Michael 8:28 @ 165 with a 400 block N/A.

[Scott Roberts]

Originally Posted by STALLION

Ken, Thanks for the kind words. I am trying to be with the really fast guys. I hope Norwalk will be the place. Don't forget Jimmy Jemmal 8:08 @ 168 with a 400 block N/A and of course my son Michael 8:28 @ 165 with a 400 block N/A.

I suspect you will be right up there Maurice! Even if your not the fastest one out of the pack, you will definately have the coolest ride!

[STALLION]

Originally Posted by Drunk'nInjun

I suspect you will be right up there Maurice! Even if your not the fastest one out of the pack, you will definately have the coolest ride!

With help from my son,friends and sponsors WE are trying to go faster and faster. Like most of us real drag racers we TRY to WALK the WALK, not just TALK the TALK!!! One more time, not just TALK the TALK. Again Thanks, Scott. I will TRY to email more pictures.

[fastgto]

Originally Posted by STALLION

Ken, Thanks for the kind words. I am trying to be with the really fast guys. I hope Norwalk will be the place. Don't forget Jimmy Jemmal 8:08 @ 168 with a 400 block N/A and of course my son Michael 8:28 @ 165 with a 400 block N/A.

STALLION
Your son Michael @ 8:28. Nice, I gather you and your son are both racing if so that`s
very cool indeed. I for one would like to know more about you, only out of interest. I think it is neat that a son happens to like and get into what dad`s into. My son is right on the verge of getting into cars as a hobby, he`s just about finished his apprenticeship as a mechanic 3rd yr. Lucky me he does like pontiacs alot, I think in part to when he was younger he did ride around with me stomping afew Stangs { LOL }. Good luck to you.

[STALLION]

Originally Posted by fastgto

STALLION
Your son Michael @ 8:28. Nice, I gather you and your son are both racing if so that`s
very cool indeed. I for one would like to know more about you, only out of interest. I think it is neat that a son happens to like and get into what dad`s into. My son is right on the verge of getting into cars as a hobby, he`s just about finished his apprenticeship as a mechanic 3rd yr. Lucky me he does like pontiacs alot, I think in part to when he was younger he did ride around with me stomping afew Stangs { LOL }. Good luck to you.

Fastgto, you can go on my web site, it's about 4 years old. I was waiting for the new car to up date the site , hopefully it will be ready in a mouth,the car and site, I hope. Good for you and your son, he is way a head of Michael and me in the mechanical part of our race team. I would have liked to have kept my 96 Prix because my 19 year young daughter is itching to drive also. I will PM you my phone #. web site www.stallionmotorsportsinc.com . Thanks Maurice.

[SupergasDil]

Ron,
I beat ya to it. I already have 6 screws in my back ;0

[Jagtec1]

Imagine what John's car might run in an 1800-2000# rail. Food for thought. He races a CLASS, and built the car for that class...and it is impressive. 1100HP with 1800# is FAST. Even at 2000# it is LOW 7's according to Wallace Racing.

Not taking away from anyone's accomplishments, butI'd rather watch 9-10 second door cars than watch a rail. Why do you think the stands are empty for most super pro rail races...because rails are boring. RED's are more exciting, as there are not many around.

JMO.

[John Langer]

Originally Posted by Jagtec1

Imagine what John's car might run in an 1800-2000# rail. Food for thought. He races a CLASS, and built the car for that class...and it is impressive. 1100HP with 1800# is FAST. Even at 2000# it is LOW 7's according to Wallace Racing.

Not taking away from anyone's accomplishments, butI'd rather watch 9-10 second door cars than watch a rail. Why do you think the stands are empty for most super pro rail races...because rails are boring. RED's are more exciting, as there are not many around.

JMO.

For get what I would run. What would Rex run weighing 600lbs less? He went what, a .39 or .38 earlier this year atr 188?

[GTOGEORGE]

Shane Molinari.......................8.01 at 168+ in a very heavy Lemans.

Jeff Kauffman ran that 7.49 back in 2000. Rex ran his numbers just last year in October.

[Brian Baker]

Originally Posted by Jagtec1

Imagine what John's car might run in an 1800-2000# rail. Food for thought. He races a CLASS, and built the car for that class...and it is impressive. 1100HP with 1800# is FAST. Even at 2000# it is LOW 7's according to Wallace Racing.

Not taking away from anyone's accomplishments, butI'd rather watch 9-10 second door cars than watch a rail. Why do you think the stands are empty for most super pro rail races...because rails are boring. RED's are more exciting, as there are not many around.

JMO.

The Klingerman's run a nostalgia Monza funny car named "Fuelish". Got to ride along with them one year at the Geezers event at MG. They run a BBC on alky with a 6-71 up top. They run it with a very conservative tune backed by a 'glide. Car weight with Tracy on board after a pass is 2250. I would guess they're making around 1100-1200 HP. The car typically runs low 7.50's, but has run 7.50's on occasion with their current tune. If they stuck this engine in an 1800 lb. race ready rail it would obviously be much faster.

[slowbird]

Why is that people dont look at the weight of the car? Ken posting that list doesnt show anything other than you can ran fast with RED and need much HP to do it.

[dci]

If you guy's think your flying now just imagine what kind of power can be made with my newest port design. The port I developed currently can be used in the TIGER heads current valve arrangement and flows 500 + cfm. I know many of you think that the exhaust configuration should be changed to a symetrical style of which I agree, but then a Pontiac will loose it's identity. Another part of that is that the guy's currently running fast with the TIGER head or E-head would have to change to many parts to upgrade. We need to take little steps not huge ones.Unfortunetly none of us have sponsors and cannot just go lay down large amounts of money every time something new comes along. I am not sure if my newest port design will ever come about though. It seems like there is just not enough demand for such a high end head, but that's not going to stop me or anyone else from pushing forward and making it bigger and better.
This debate just got good here in the last couple of post's with everyone finally relating weight to power. Yes low 7 second passes are impressive even at 1800 lbs , but low sevens are even more impressive at 2300 lbs. NHRA prostocks are some of the fastest normally aspirated cars in the world with 500 cu. in. and weigh 2350. Us old traditional Pontiac die hards are gaining on the latest most advanced engines in NHRA history and we are doing it with basically 30 + year old technology. To me,that is way COOL.

Don Johnston
DCI MOTORSPORTS INC.
330-628-3354
www.dcimotorsports.com

[Brian Baker]

Originally Posted by dci

If you guy's think your flying now just imagine what kind of power can be made with my newest port design. The port I developed currently can be used in the TIGER heads current valve arrangement and flows 500 + cfm. I know many of you think that the exhaust configuration should be changed to a symetrical style of which I agree, but then a Pontiac will loose it's identity. Another part of that is that the guy's currently running fast with the TIGER head or E-head would have to change to many parts to upgrade. We need to take little steps not huge ones.Unfortunetly none of us have sponsors and cannot just go lay down large amounts of money every time something new comes along. I am not sure if my newest port design will ever come about though. It seems like there is just not enough demand for such a high end head, but that's not going to stop me or anyone else from pushing forward and making it bigger and better.
This debate just got good here in the last couple of post's with everyone finally relating weight to power. Yes low 7 second passes are impressive even at 1800 lbs , but low sevens are even more impressive at 2300 lbs. NHRA prostocks are some of the fastest normally aspirated cars in the world with 500 cu. in. and weigh 2350. Us old traditional Pontiac die hards are gaining on the latest most advanced engines in NHRA history and we are doing it with basically 30 + year old technology. To me,that is way COOL.

Don Johnston
DCI MOTORSPORTS INC.
330-628-3354
www.dcimotorsports.com

Identity schmendity! Lose the siamesed ports so we can run a primary larger than 2-1/8" without the center primaries also getting siamesed. Besides, zoomies with siamsed center pipes look like hammered dog crap.

[TIN TIGR]

ok, im new here pretty much..so what class of car is mr langers?..some weird tt5 pontiac only deal?..and n/a to boot..i am confused..i need more info..looks like most of the "fast" cars are bracket racers..so who the hell cares how fast they go

cuz if you aint running down the chevys, fords, and mopars at their own game, you aint poo..and its gonna take tigers or cv-1s to play that game..my calculations show the cv-1s to be more cost efficient..thats the way im going..10.5 tire, with all the goodies thrown in..i think your mostly stuck in pontiac only races..i could be wrong..i loved the cv head killing them in arizona..it was a small race, but it won..

[screamingchief]

Originally Posted by TIN TIGR

ok, im new here pretty much..so what class of car is mr langers?..some weird tt5 pontiac only deal?..and n/a to boot..i am confused..i need more info..

Uhhh,,,your kidding right???

NMCA pro-stock champion ring a bell.

Originally Posted by TIN TIGR

cuz if you aint running down the chevys, fords, and mopars at their own game, you aint poo..

Well,,,there you go,,,he's your guy...

[Old Man Taylor]

Originally Posted by TIN TIGR

- - - ..i loved the cv head killing them in arizona..it was a small race, but it won..

What race was this?

[INJUNTOM]

Originally Posted by Old Man Taylor

What race was this?

Here's a few threads on the topic newest to oldest:

http://www.pontiaczone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21666

http://www.pontiaczone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21676

http://www.pontiaczone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21647


In a nutshell, Robin won fastest street car in AZ just before going for the fastest street car in America competition.

[cgeise]

Originally Posted by dci

If you guy's think your flying now just imagine what kind of power can be made with my newest port design. The port I developed currently can be used in the TIGER heads current valve arrangement and flows 500 + cfm. I know many of you think that the exhaust configuration should be changed to a symetrical style of which I agree, but then a Pontiac will loose it's identity. Another part of that is that the guy's currently running fast with the TIGER head or E-head would have to change to many parts to upgrade. We need to take little steps not huge ones.Unfortunetly none of us have sponsors and cannot just go lay down large amounts of money every time something new comes along. I am not sure if my newest port design will ever come about though. It seems like there is just not enough demand for such a high end head, but that's not going to stop me or anyone else from pushing forward and making it bigger and better.
This debate just got good here in the last couple of post's with everyone finally relating weight to power. Yes low 7 second passes are impressive even at 1800 lbs , but low sevens are even more impressive at 2300 lbs. NHRA prostocks are some of the fastest normally aspirated cars in the world with 500 cu. in. and weigh 2350. Us old traditional Pontiac die hards are gaining on the latest most advanced engines in NHRA history and we are doing it with basically 30 + year old technology. To me,that is way COOL.

Don Johnston
DCI MOTORSPORTS INC.
330-628-3354
www.dcimotorsports.com

Since we are talking about making power here - I take it from your coments that you have a 500 cfm port - that is based on the tiger head -- so where is it ?? whats the deal ? - and at 500 cfm - over 540 cid that is the normal max available for us -- it would seem that we would need to be near pro stock rpm to make it really "work" Inquiring minds want to know ?

[Jack Ferris]

Originally Posted by cgeise

Since we are talking about making power here - I take it from your coments that you have a 500 cfm port - that is based on the tiger head -- so where is it ?? whats the deal ? - and at 500 cfm - over 540 cid that is the normal max available for us -- it would seem that we would need to be near pro stock rpm to make it really "work" Inquiring minds want to know ?

Y a

[INJUNTOM]

Originally Posted by cgeise

Since we are talking about making power here - I take it from your coments that you have a 500 cfm port - that is based on the tiger head -- so where is it ?? whats the deal ? - and at 500 cfm - over 540 cid that is the normal max available for us -- it would seem that we would need to be near pro stock rpm to make it really "work" Inquiring minds want to know ?

FYI - I believe this is the guy that designed the Tiger head...