[Tom Vaught]

Jimmy Keen ran his 347 Engine on John Meany's 2000 HP Stuska dyno and made 1113 HP if I remember correctly and when we went to the track at 3000 lbs the car went 8.03 at 168.7 mph.

There is 150 lbs different in the car's weights so I would have a bit of trouble with the projected 1100 hp number too.

Tom Vaught

[GREATGTO]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

Jimmy Keen ran his 347 Engine on John Meany's 2000 HP Stuska dyno and made 1113 HP if I remember correctly and when we went to the track at 3000 lbs the car went 8.03 at 168.7 mph.

There is 150 lbs different in the car's weights so I would have a bit of trouble with the projected 1100 hp number too.

Tom Vaught

Tom I believe someone said 3000 lbs with driver, so its right there. Like I said I don't know the actual hp but its not out of the realm that's all. Hey its always better if you can go fast with less hp, wish I had that problem lol

[69Goat1]

Originally Posted by GREATGTO

yeah you dont run 8.04 either, they were melting pistons with eheads when they ran 8 teens, same car

Nah- I just run 9's with a stock block 462 on pump gas NA @ 3525 lbs...

[7T2]

boost IS boost- but differentially assessed.
when turbo and nitrous cars compete in heads up classes that i know of, turbo cars are significantly limited in ci, while nitrous motors have no ci limits. why??
heres an idea!
how about comparing this stock block nitrous motor to other stock block nitrous motors?

[EPC_Motorsports]

Originally Posted by Gach

I don't think the 8.04 it's a big deal, it's a pretty light car and is expected to run fast. What's missing here is the fact their thrilled to have gotten rid of the issues
they where having with the Race Shop motor.

PS: EPC_Motorsports...isn't your Firebrid around 2800-2900 lbs...now...and you where running...I think 8.20's at Norwalk this year. So I'd say your pretty close in
weight. He's also only running a 467 ci...don't know what your CI is.

We were at 3478 with steel fenders and steel doors. took 284 lbs off car. To get percentages right we have 30 lbs of ballest in rear, We were at race weight at norwalk 3240. Plus one more 15 lb bottle when we turned on the second kit.

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by GREATGTO

Tom I believe someone said 3000 lbs with driver, so its right there. Like I said I don't know the actual hp but its not out of the realm that's all. Hey its always better if you can go fast with less hp, wish I had that problem lol

I was ASSUMING that 2850 was with driver. If it is with driver at 3000 then you are correct, it is spot on 1100 HP and mph is there too.

Tom Vaught

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by 7T2

boost IS boost- but differentially assessed.
when turbo and nitrous cars compete in heads up classes that i know of, turbo cars are significantly limited in ci, while nitrous motors have no ci limits. why??

Nitrous engines develop very high cylinder pressures whereas a Turbo engine may increase the cylinder pressure by 15% but increase the mass flow and push on the piston for a longer period of time every combustion event. Higher overall torque.

Nitrous has very high cylinder pressure spikes which are hard on parts unless you ramp it in in stages at different parts of the track. Still you can only get a given amount of extra oxygen molecules in every 10 lb bottle for any given bottle pressure. This is why you have big cid engines in my opinion competing against sb Turbo cars.

Tom Vaught

[slowbird]

Jimmy Jammel run real low 8s with a stock block N/A and e-heads. I am pretty sure that engine was in the 460cid range. He was spinning that upwards of 8,000rpm also. That engine was put together by one of those idiots that a certain person keeps referring to.

[EPC_Motorsports]

Originally Posted by EPC_Motorsports

We were at 3478 with steel fenders and steel doors. took 284 lbs off car. To get percentages right we have 30 lbs of ballest in rear, We were at race weight at norwalk 3240. Plus one more 15 lb bottle when we turned on the second kit.

Still the same old 505 with E heads. Just for the record we have been faster at 3478 than 3200 lbs. We had two conservative tune ups at norwalk . We only went as fast as we had to thare. We want to do more with this car than just show boat, Ya know. Hell Gash, We only had 1.30 60 ft times and 5.30 eights but went 138 and 139 to the eigth. Add that up.

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by TIN TIGR

the amount of hateful bs i see on this post, disgusts me..

turbo cars are not the same as nitrous cars!!..boost aint boost..i cant even believe anyone could make that statement..

"the fastest cars have bla-bla heads"..who frking cares?..where do they race?..some top sportsman bracket deal?..at norwalks "pontiac only" races..

for all the talent, experience, and knowledge i see on this board,(which is immense) only a handful are "real" racers, imho..

cv-1s were bashed from day one..ports too big, too slow..lmao..and some cats swallowed that bs and took the hook to the gut..if you are in that group, laugh it off, and say "i sure screwed the pooch on that one"..i am soooooo happy for the performances being shown by the folks who knew better..in todays economy, everything has slowed down, including R+D and race car builds..but the cv-1s seem to be speeding up..lol..

bottom line, quit hating and get it together..we have the parts needed to run now..support your pontiac brothers..run without your ego, you will go faster..

remember to vote this november, as socialism will kill all our hobbys..stand together as americans, and as pontiac people..both seem to be a dying breed..


(this is tin tigr, and i approve this statement..)

......... very nice, very nice Tin, dude, where have you been, have not seen you around in a while ?????

[PONTIAC DUDE]

Originally Posted by slowbird

Jimmy Jammel run real low 8s with a stock block N/A and e-heads. I am pretty sure that engine was in the 460cid range. He was spinning that upwards of 8,000rpm also. That engine was put together by one of those idiots that a certain person keeps referring to.

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha

[GREATGTO]

Originally Posted by PONTIAC DUDE

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha

Whats so funny, why don't you post the weight of that car if you want to talk about light! Ahhh now its not so funny is it??? People always seems to leave out important information that is privey to the conversation at hand

[Tom Vaught]

Congrats on the 8.04 Time on the car.

I am done with this one.

Tom Vaught

[PONTIAC DUDE]

Originally Posted by GREATGTO

Whats so funny, why don't you post the weight of that car if you want to talk about light! Ahhh now its not so funny is it??? People always seems to leave out important information that is privey to the conversation at hand

here ya go. Bwahahahahahahahaha.

Yep, lot of info left out of this CV-1 topic. you are right.

[PONTIAC DUDE]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

Congrats on the 8.04 Time on the car.

I am done with this one.

Tom Vaught

Yea me too. But 8.04 is cookin.

Lot of mis information.

Race Hard & Have Fun.

[cmpgto]

Congrats on the new best! Not hurting parts is a nice bonus. I assume this is the car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWt8zc4fUQg

[Gach]

Originally Posted by EPC_Motorsports

Still the same old 505 with E heads. Just for the record we have been faster at 3478 than 3200 lbs. We had two conservative tune ups at norwalk . We only went as fast as we had to thare. We want to do more with this car than just show boat, Ya know. Hell Gash, We only had 1.30 60 ft times and 5.30 eights but went 138 and 139 to the eigth. Add that up.

That's called sandbagging...

[Gach]

Originally Posted by TIN TIGR

the amount of hateful bs i see on this post, disgusts me..

turbo cars are not the same as nitrous cars!!..boost aint boost..i cant even believe anyone could make that statement..

"the fastest cars have bla-bla heads"..who frking cares?..where do they race?..some top sportsman bracket deal?..at norwalks "pontiac only" races..

for all the talent, experience, and knowledge i see on this board,(which is immense) only a handful are "real" racers, imho..

cv-1s were bashed from day one..ports too big, too slow..lmao..and some cats swallowed that bs and took the hook to the gut..if you are in that group, laugh it off, and say "i sure screwed the pooch on that one"..i am soooooo happy for the performances being shown by the folks who knew better..in todays economy, everything has slowed down, including R+D and race car builds..but the cv-1s seem to be speeding up..lol..

bottom line, quit hating and get it together..we have the parts needed to run now..support your pontiac brothers..run without your ego, you will go faster..

remember to vote this november, as socialism will kill all our hobbys..stand together as americans, and as pontiac people..both seem to be a dying breed..


(this is tin tigr, and i approve this statement..)

Yes very nice indeed...you just said exactly what 99% of us are thinking, and just
haven't put into words.

[Polar-Pontiac]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

I was ASSUMING that 2850 was with driver. If it is with driver at 3000 then you are correct, it is spot on 1100 HP and mph is there too.

Tom Vaught

I said that in post #19 pay attention ....LOL.

[David Holmberg]

goquick, if I have to delete another post from you, you'll be on vacation for a while.