[65WJ]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

We were just discussing "hop up" tricks on another thread, and I was reminded of something that would fit here as well:

The discussion was installing "weaker mechanical advance springs" in a reworked distributor -

Remember those cloth hand towel machines that were in the men's rest room of the day (the ones that were a continuous loop)? You'd give them a little tug like a window shade, and they would present the next section of "clean" towel for your use.

Dad and his buddies discovered that there were little springs inside those, that were perfect for replacing the mechanical advance springs in the distributor.

He said, at one point, you couldn't find a bathroom in Pontiac or at Chevrolet Manufacturing where the towel rack worked. They'd just go "bzzzzzttttt" and the whole length of towel would end up on the floor......

Originally Posted by robz

LOL! Now THAT is funny!

Originally Posted by Old Goat 67

Is that called "Necessity is the mother of invention." Or, would that word be procurement?

Charles

That takes a very creative mind to wonder how a towell dispensor works.

So how did the word get out? hmm I would have kept that secret to myself.

I like your walking stick. I may need something like that in a few years. Arthur is rearing his ugly head in my right ankle. uggh

Great story Keith thanks for sharing

patrick

[Keith Seymore]

It's been a long, boring winter here in southern Michigan. We thought perhaps spring had sprung on Saturday; the forecast was for snow/freezing rain and (naturally) we awoke to a crisp, clear, beautiful morning.

So - I loaded up the GP and headed over to our Woodward Avenue bookstore cruise. Only Jim Kennedy and I were brave enough to drive our vintage Pontiacs (his a '62, mine a '63):







I the end, the forecast was dead on; by Sunday afternoon we had the freezing rain and slushy conditions that were predicted.

We call it "Indian Winter"....

K

[Old Goat 67]

Stunning car Keith!

I just love it when you post pics.

Charles

[Dr. Eric M. Schiffer]

Hey, Keith that is me in the Yellow and grey Corvette racing jacket and my red Expedition in the lot.
Yes, you and Jim did brave the cold and bring out the Pontiacs. But Jim Kennedy's heater doesn't work. Now that is really a case of cabin fever....and he just couldn't wait to get the car out...After all with that cold air you make more horse power...so what you can't get traction on...It is still a lot of fun.
Hope to see soon
Eric

[Dr. Eric M. Schiffer]

Keith,
I got a call from both of Jim Wangers' old drivers, John "Cheater" Politzer and "Fast" Freddie Foreman. They want to get together at the Auto Zone Book Store Saturday morning. Breakfast afterwards.
Eric

[Keith Seymore]

A couple updates -

a) Yesterday was June 11 and therefore was my seniority date and 32nd anniversary of starting with General Motors.

In celebration, I went to......

b) the Widetrackers Dustoff Car show!

Weather was a little punky but still a pretty good show.

I was honored to be asked to speak for a few minutes during the awards presentations about Mac McKellar. I spoke extemporanously (off the top of my head) and managed to fake my way through it, setting the stage for our first Mac McKellar memorial award, given to this gentleman for his beautiful '69 Grand Prix, complete with 428 cubic inch engine and redline tires mounted on steel wheels with dog dish hubcaps.



Link to more Widetrackers photos here: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...=1#post4340713

K

[Keith Seymore]

One of our PY members Bonneville Joe started a thread about taking his car back to it's original delivering dealer from some pictures (link: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=666290), and I thought "hey, I can do that, too!".

So - since this is Father's Day and I can do pretty much whatever I want, I drove the GTO over to 400 N Main Street in Royal Oak, formerly Royal Pontiac (and more recently formerly Jim Fresard Pontiac) for a photo shoot.

The building is actually being considered for a Kroger supermarket ( I have also heard they may tear it down), so I wanted to get some photos before that happened. These are intended to be primarily documentation of the existing buildings, but if one or two turned out to be somewhat artistic...well, that's a bonus I guess.

One other ironic thought: during my growing up years, when we were at Royal a couple times a week, it was a 50 mile ride. Now, as an adult, I live about 4 miles from this hallowed ground.

K

[Old Goat 67]

Bet you are glad you did that!

Neat!

[Tenney]

Cool Keith!

[Dr. Eric M. Schiffer]

Keith,
I guess I better get the Black bird and the GTO over there ASAP. I can still remember in 1969 Sam Frontier, Ace Wilson's Parts Mgr, sending me up those steel stairs, to the area just above the parts department, to pick out any intake manifold I wanted for my car and passing RA/HO exhaust manifolds on the steps. Than as I got to the top of the stair case seeing all of those intakes, aluminum and cast iron, hanging from the rafters each by a hook and clynder heads lined up. Carb's etc. A new "take off" cast iron intake cost $10.00 and was considered used. I think the aluminum "take off" intake was a whopping $25.00.

Sam told me that when they changed enignes, warranty or otherwise they would get complete engines from the factory and turn them into short blocks. Then use the customers upper end on the new short block. He said they had to do it this why. I don't remember why he said the factory wanted it this for warranty work.

Author Dave Newhardt got a picture of my '68 GTO Bobcat convert, top down in front of the Service Entrance for his book, "Pontiac's Great One GTO". Dave also got a picture of my GTO in front of the orginal Ace Wilson's Royal Pontiac which is now Autometric's Body shop a couple of blocks north of the 400 N. Main building.

We used my '68 GTO for Jim Wangers "Crusing Woodward" video. They had me pulling into the service write up area as then pulling out on to Main St as they talked about all the guys coming in on Friday's for a Bobcat Tune up before hiting the strip.

What great memories.

[brut4s]

Beautiful '63!

[Old Blue 66]

Beautiful Cat!!! And I used to have the same 64 Bonne vert before I had my LeMans. It just wasnt as nice.

Great pics. Thanks for sharing.

[Dr. Eric M. Schiffer]

Here is a resent picture of the Royal car restored. I also included a picture of Jack "Doc" Watson with his restored SSJ Grand Prix at the same event.
Somewhere amoung my pictures I have Win Brown at the event too.

Hey, Keith I see you where driving the Opel "Volt" to see the new 8 Lug wheels. Is that Mike Tiffany's '67 GTO convert?

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by Dr. Eric M. Schiffer

Hey, Keith I see you where driving the Opel "Volt" to see the new 8 Lug wheels. Is that Mike Tiffany's '67 GTO convert?

Good eye - that was my daily driver for the last four months, so I drove it everywhere; gave it back on Monday of this week (26Se2011).



The GTO belongs to Eric White, who drove it over from Lapeer to snap the photos.

K

[Dr. Eric M. Schiffer]

Here are some pictures of oldies. Joe Pepo on of the original Detroit "High End" racers, Scott Tieman, Jack "Doc" Watson (Hurst Shifty Doctor) and Win Brown, (Royal Pontiac/Royal Race Team) That is the '64 Car and Driver red GTO to the left and Jack Watson's Hurst Olds convertible pace car to the right.

With the Monkee Mobile.
Left:Me in a yellow over T-shirt
Middle: Buck Mook, Retired head Ford Designer who designed the Monkee Mobile when a student on the west coast. He worked with Dean Jefferies on this and the original Green Hornet car.
Current owner: Mel Guthery, bought the car at Barrett Jackson a few years ago for around $340,000. Mel drives it every where. It is not a trailer queen.

[brut4s]

Mr Seymore, I was re-reading this article and post #8 caught my eye. My '65 GTO also was built with out Rally gauges or a tach. It also dose'nt have the GTO emblem on the trunk. It is the trunk that came with the car and has'nt been in a rear accident. I bought it from the orignal owner. The only damage was to the front fenders. I thought it was odd, but didn't think much about it.

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by brut4s

Mr Seymore, I was re-reading this article and post #8 caught my eye. My '65 GTO also was built with out Rally gauges or a tach. It also dose'nt have the GTO emblem on the trunk. It is the trunk that came with the car and has'nt been in a rear accident. I bought it from the orignal owner. The only damage was to the front fenders. I thought it was odd, but didn't think much about it.

The rally gauges/tach were optional, so it is possible for a car (many of them) to be built without that option. The unique-ness in our case was that our car, destined to be a racecar, was ordered with the tach cluster but was still built without (as evidenced by the build sheet). Must have been a part shortage, or some other reason not obvious today.

Relative to your GTO emblem - do you know when the car was built, and what assembly plant?

K

[brut4s]

It was built at the Fremont plant. I'll have to l look for my PHS paperwork I don't remember the date.

[Keith Seymore]

For a Fremont car, I'm going to guess it was simply a build error....

[brut4s]

Lol! Curious, if it were built somewhere else would it mean something?