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Does anyone have an original stripe car or a clear copy of the page that shows the rally stripe measurements?
I think I have it right but the copy in the assembly manual is very hard to read.
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Let me approach this a different way..
Does anyone have the '69 assembly manual? If so, look on page 91 and see if you can read the measurements noted. If not, I'll go with my interpretation. ![]() Pic below of a striped car I owned back in '82 but the dual stripe details are not visible..
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Greg Reid Palmetto, Georgia Last edited by Greg Reid; 10-09-2017 at 05:51 PM. |
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Greg:
I think this photo from my manual copy is readable...
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Don't rush me - it's only year 20 of the 3 year restoration! 68 GTO convertible YS M40, A/C, PS, PB-disc, Posi-T, PW, P-seat, AM-FM stereo 8-track, P-ant, P-trunk lid, Tilt-S, Rally gauges, Hideaways C1 224 Triple white |
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I'm mainly interested in the spacing BETWEEN the stripes. I think the other stuff I can decipher. Looks like .180 to me...? But seems kind of wide...
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I know brochures are notoriously inaccurate (note the 400 on the rocker trim), but I'm thinking this picture from the '68 performance brochure shows the stripes pretty close to how they actually were.
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Well there you go. Agree with trophy421. Although, interestingly when I pull out and look at my actual brochure you can see that the distance from body crease to lower stripe varies quite a bit in this photo. On the door it's almost right on the body line crease, while the front part of fender it's quite a bit higher. Obviously the factory was not as particular as us. Stripes also appear to be closer than the 1/4" specified in the assembly manual.
Another note, if you look at the brochure 2-page spread photo of the hardtop right before the convertible, black rally stripes were clearly retouched in the photo as they cut across the flower stems in the foreground 🤔
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Don't rush me - it's only year 20 of the 3 year restoration! 68 GTO convertible YS M40, A/C, PS, PB-disc, Posi-T, PW, P-seat, AM-FM stereo 8-track, P-ant, P-trunk lid, Tilt-S, Rally gauges, Hideaways C1 224 Triple white |
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Thanks kk68. That's definitely better than mine but still waffling on the space between. What's it look like to you? .180 or .120?
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Greg Reid Palmetto, Georgia |
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I'm pretty sure it's 0.120.
So, 0.06 or close to 1/16" for upper stripe; and 0.120 or 1/8" for lower stripe; with 0.25 or 1/4" between. Lower stripe is 1/2" above lower body line crease. Can't read the details on exactly how the ends come to a point, but they angle together to form point. Hope that helps. Mine had the rally stripes but I haven't put them back on yet. I plan on using the vinyl pin striping tape in 1/16" and 1/8" widths.
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Don't rush me - it's only year 20 of the 3 year restoration! 68 GTO convertible YS M40, A/C, PS, PB-disc, Posi-T, PW, P-seat, AM-FM stereo 8-track, P-ant, P-trunk lid, Tilt-S, Rally gauges, Hideaways C1 224 Triple white |
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Here’s a nice factory picture of a Rally stripe car.
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Boy you sure don't see many restored like that today. I'm guessing this went away after 68?
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looks like the 2 in the .250 dimention
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.120 seems right to me. I did a mock-up on a piece of sheetmetal using the .180 spacing and it looks good but I don't think the originals had that big of a gap between the lines.
As for when it went away Formulajones, I've never seen any car but a '68 with it and damn few of those. I'm thinking of adding a black stripe to mine using 'One-Shot' pinstriping enamel.
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Greg Reid Palmetto, Georgia |
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The stripe was an option in both 68 and 69. Pretty rare in 69 anyway with only 9 of the 450 non judge PHS's I have ordered with it. I'm not aware of any documentation stating it wasn't available with a Judge but logically it wasn't. The 9 examples I have are from various plants and colors, the earliest is Feb 69 but that is probably not meaningful since my sampling is so small. Worth noting that 6 of the 9 come from ragtops meaning 1% of hardtops had the stripe and 5% of my convertibles did.
I parted out a 69 convertible 15-20 years ago that had the Rallye stripes on the window sticker (Liberty blue with white stripes). Car had been repainted but we found the ends of the painted stripes on the inside back edge of the fenders and the inside leading edge of the doors when we pulled it apart. They were exactly as described; 1/2" from the lower body feature line to 1/8" lower stripe and 1/4" between it and the upper 1/16" stripe. I took note of it because I tried it (with stick on pin-striping) on my GTO convertible. I hated the look, it made the car seem high and took away the cleanness of the lines of the car, drawing your eyes to the bottom. My car was Matador red and I tried both white and black, black wasn't as bad since it was less noticeable but still did nothing for the car. I guess if I had a car that had it on the PHS I'd consider putting it on the car (tape only) but I'd never add it to a car that wasn't ordered with it.
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My Break Away Squad 1969 Fbird (base OHC, 350, 400HO & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA ht’s) 1969 Custom S 2dr ht 1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr ht & Cvt) 1969 LeMans Safari wagon 1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 ht & Judge ht) 1969 Cat (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr ht) 1969 Ventura wagon 2 seat 1969 Exec 4dr post 1969 2 Bonnie Cvt's & 2 wagons 1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr ht & Cvt) 1969 Grand Prix 2 SJ’s 1969 2+2 2dr ht (Canadian) |
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I stumbled across this picture from "I Dream of Jeannie" and thought I'd post it here for reference.
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I love the look of lacquer factory paint cars like that pic from I Dream of Jeannie. These base coat clear coat paint jobs are like a colored mirror...you look at a car and just see reflections of the background like a mirror.
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Greg, I just saw a car for sale online this week that had the original paint (Verdoro Green) with this White stripe. I just searched for it but came up empty. Dang it! I'll keep looking.
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Actually Greg, I think that looks pretty good. Looks good on the yellow one above too.
I remember 66 or 67 chevelle Super Sports having a similar stripe as well. Accents the body line down there and breaks it up just enough to be subtle. |
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They should fire the guy who painted the stripe on the I dream of Jeannie car, he didn't even follow the body line up front!
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My Break Away Squad 1969 Fbird (base OHC, 350, 400HO & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA ht’s) 1969 Custom S 2dr ht 1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr ht & Cvt) 1969 LeMans Safari wagon 1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 ht & Judge ht) 1969 Cat (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr ht) 1969 Ventura wagon 2 seat 1969 Exec 4dr post 1969 2 Bonnie Cvt's & 2 wagons 1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr ht & Cvt) 1969 Grand Prix 2 SJ’s 1969 2+2 2dr ht (Canadian) |
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Ignore the first paragraph in my response above. I see it all now. It was the quarter inch between the lines that seemed excessive but that is clearly what that measurement is.
Good idea to try it with tape north. A lot easier to get rid of if I don't like the look. I've been going back and forth with trying it ever since I got my car back from paint.
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Greg Reid Palmetto, Georgia |
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