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#121
08-25-2018, 11:52 PM
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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#122
08-27-2018, 08:50 PM
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I drive at least 75 miles a month. Not a "daily" driver but close. I don't go out if it looks like it might rain.
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#123
08-28-2018, 06:03 AM
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1967 Firechicken, 499", Edl heads, 262/266@0.050" duration and 0.627"/0.643 lift SR cam, 3.90 gear, 28" tire, 3550#. 10.01@134.3 mph with a 1.45 60'. Still WAY under the rollbar rule. |
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#124
08-28-2018, 07:09 AM
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That's only 900 miles per year and you can drive 12 months out of the year in FL... I may not get one of the toy cars out every sunshiny day - but when I get them out I actually put some miles on. We took the '49, the '64 and the '72 to one car show and got over 500 miles on each of them in one weekend...  This is a photo taken by our daughter when we went to the show in 2017 - taken through the windshield of her friends truck as we left the old farmhouse we rented 5 miles from the Iola Old Car showgrounds. Here they are at our weekend hideaway... Good times driving to and from Iola (about 4 hours each way). Show up Wednesday - go home on Sunday. 300 acres of cars and parts to look at in between... |
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#125
08-29-2018, 11:51 AM
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I dont drive it 2.5 miles a day. When I do its 30-40 miles, so it gets plenty hot. I'm so afraid of some mindless twit, texting and running into me.
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#126
08-30-2018, 07:18 AM
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Ted
I'm confused. You said "Not a "daily" driver but close." originally. Now it sounds like you only drive it a couple times per month. |
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#127
08-30-2018, 08:09 AM
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"Daily Driver" seems to be a catch word that many use for a vehicle that is not a pure Car Show Trailered Vehicle. Maybe not a #1 or #2 vehicle but a solid #3 'Daily Driver" capable vehicle.
In some places, like Naples, Florida you might not have to drive over 35 miles to get to the local show or the "Coffee & Cars" type event. 35 miles is more than enough time for the engine to get warmed up, especially in Florida. And it does not rain at 2:00 pm every day in the dry season. So because you drive longer distances to get anyplace in MN is no reflection on his situation, Champ. My opinion. I would call it a "Daily Driver" capable vehicle that gets driven a couple of times a month to events. A nice 68 Bird is a cool vehicle to see at events. Tom V.
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"Engineers do stuff for reasons" Tom Vaught Despite small distractions, there are those who will go Forward, Learning, Sharing Knowledge, Doing what they can to help others move forward. |
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#128
08-30-2018, 09:21 AM
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Tom
I fully recognize that 35 miles is more than enough time to warm up an engine. As to having to drive "longer distances to get anyplace in MN" is not true. I drove 1.5 (each way) miles to a show this year. 17 miles to another. The point I was making is that 75 miles per month isn't a significant # of miles to drive a car. |
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#129
08-30-2018, 09:36 AM
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For the record, the national average for miles traveled on a vehicle today is 12,000 to 15,000 miles per year. Under 10,000 in my book is not a daily driver. I put between 3500 and 5000 miles per year on my truck now and wouldn't think of calling it a daily driver.
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#130
08-30-2018, 10:07 AM
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I owned a 1978 Trans Am when I worked for Holley Carburetor.
I drove the car to work every morning and home every afternoon. Every work day, I would call that a daily driver. 9 miles each way. 9 x 2 = 18 x 260 = 4680 miles. So your opinion Champ and Chief's opinion of a Daily Driver is different vs mine. Lets just agree to disagree on this subject. This is AMERICA and everyone has a right to their opinion. And that is all it is, AN OPINION. Tom V. My boss used to say "1 piece of data is worth more than 10,000 OPINIONS", I provided a piece of DATA.
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"Engineers do stuff for reasons" Tom Vaught Despite small distractions, there are those who will go Forward, Learning, Sharing Knowledge, Doing what they can to help others move forward. Last edited by Tom Vaught; 08-30-2018 at 10:15 AM. |
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#131
08-30-2018, 10:18 AM
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since when did "daily driver" mean a mileage count was met?
"daily driver" is sopposed to be a quite literal term - you drive it daily...
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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#132
08-30-2018, 10:22 AM
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Well, I guess my "72 Luxury LeMans qualifies since it's the only car I own/drive. Oh but wait! I don't necessarily drive every day....Does my car still qualify?
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#133
08-30-2018, 11:13 AM
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OOPS, i DID NOT DRIVE IT ALWAYS ON SUNDAYS. MY BAD.
Tom V.
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"Engineers do stuff for reasons" Tom Vaught Despite small distractions, there are those who will go Forward, Learning, Sharing Knowledge, Doing what they can to help others move forward. |
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#134
08-30-2018, 07:22 PM
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1968 Firebird 400 RAII M21, 3.31 12 bolt, Mayfair Maize. 1977 Trans Am W72 400, TH350, 3.23 T Top Everyone you will ever meet knows something you don't. Bill Nye. |
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#135
08-30-2018, 07:28 PM
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The op was asking about rare street driven Pontiacs, not "daily drivers"..... Someone should start a thread about "Daily Drivers" so as not to hijack the thread....
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#136
08-30-2018, 08:58 PM
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Agree, problem is hard to agree on what is rare, much less what is a Daily Driver, vs a Garage Queen.
Tom V.
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"Engineers do stuff for reasons" Tom Vaught Despite small distractions, there are those who will go Forward, Learning, Sharing Knowledge, Doing what they can to help others move forward. |
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#137
08-30-2018, 09:38 PM
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I have had in my life a 64 Lemans, a 58 Chevy delray, a 64 GTO, a 63 Impala SS, a 65 Impala SS and a 77 C10 and when I had those vehicles they were the only ones I had. That’s a daily driver in my opinion. The 58 Delray remains but she has been retired and will be the next to get a frame up restoration. Oh I forgot my 59 Impala two door hardtop that I had for exactly two months when an 80 something year old woman ran a redlight and totaled it. That was before I knew about collector car insurance. The sad thing about that car was that at 19 I believed them when they said it was totaled and let the insurance company take it. The local junkman bought it and fixed it and I have to see it around town from time to time.
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#138
08-31-2018, 06:34 AM
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This thread left the rails pages ago....why bother now? 
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Some guys they just give up living And start dying little by little, piece by piece, Some guys come home from work and wash up, And go racin' in the street. Bruce Springsteen - Racing In The Street - 1978 |
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#139
08-31-2018, 09:16 AM
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Daily drivers, mega miles, trucks, non-Pontiacs...... Did I leave anything out? |
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#140
08-31-2018, 11:53 AM
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Only two RARE Street Driven Pontiac Combos/Owners out there today.
The TENNY/WANGERS 64 GTO Magazine Car and Tom S RA-V Engines in vehicles he put together. They are real street driven RARE cars. So how many posts do you need to mention TWO OWNERS/ Their CARS? Of course the thread got sidelined. Notice, I said today. A Very Nice Royal Bobcat 65 GTO owned by one of our 64-65 Forum members is RARE but is presently TODAY sitting in the Museum for a year on the other side of the state. Not street driven TODAY Tom V.
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