[Tellyshavilli]

Originally Posted by MarkS57

I've only seen one 69 RA IV Firebird up close, some sort of brown in Fort Wayne IN about 1977. RA IV 1970 T/A's yep and 455 HO's & 455 SD's. Only the one 69, wasn't a T/A

Hi Mark , the car in ft Wayne has to be the good raiv 69 fb . It’s a automatic and pulled it from there about 20 yrs ago

[MarkS57]

Originally Posted by Tellyshavilli

Hi Mark , the car in ft Wayne has to be the good raiv 69 fb . It’s a automatic and pulled it from there about 20 yrs ago

Wow, that's pretty cool. I've often thought about that car over the years. I spent 1 year in Ft Wayne as a college freshman.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by Tellyshavilli

Hi Mark , the car in ft Wayne has to be the good raiv 69 fb . It’s a automatic and pulled it from there about 20 yrs ago

Telly was "good" a typo/auto-correct for Gold ?

[Transamric]

Good to see the original WS has stayed with the car all these years. Never knew whether Telly got it from John or not.

[74SDformula]

In looking at the window sticker I see Hood Ram Air Inlet 611 $84.26 I always assumed this was part of the RAIV package. However, it looks like it was a mandatory option. Never knew that. Thanks for posting the window sticker and many thanks for the photos of such a great car!

[Tellyshavilli]

Originally Posted by 74SDformula

In looking at the window sticker I see Hood Ram Air Inlet 611 $84.26 I always assumed this was part of the RAIV package. However, it looks like it was a mandatory option. Never knew that. Thanks for posting the window sticker and many thanks for the photos of such a great car!

It was part of the RAIV engine package. Years ago came to the conclusion the dealership double dipped

[74SDformula]

Originally Posted by Tellyshavilli

It was part of the RAIV engine package. Years ago came to the conclusion the dealership double dipped

Thanks for the clarification. I first saw "your" Matador Red RAIV car at the TA Nats years ago. It was the first time I had ever seen a '69 RAIV Firebird 400 car in person. It really made an impression on me.

[Tellyshavilli]

Originally Posted by 74SDformula

Thanks for the clarification. I first saw "your" Matador Red RAIV car at the TA Nats years ago. It was the first time I had ever seen a '69 RAIV Firebird 400 car in person. It really made an impression on me.

👍 it’s a great car

[turbo69bird]

Originally Posted by Tellyshavilli

It was part of the RAIV engine package. Years ago came to the conclusion the dealership double dipped

I was gonna say mine was built the same week but doesn’t have the 611 for ram air inlet, That explains it. Funny how dealerships did things differnt, wonder if the salesman even knew or just checked it to make sure it was included because some of the 400 cars ordered didn’t come in as RAIII but HO instead.

[grandam1979]

There was a unrestored one a Norwalk last year sitting on the show field side but sitting by the motorhomes along the fence. It was a very complete original car.

[74SDformula]

Originally Posted by grandam1979

There was a unrestored one a Norwalk last year sitting on the show field side but sitting by the motorhomes along the fence. It was a very complete original car.

I believe this is the one you are talking about. Norwalk 2022.

[68hotbird]

Originally Posted by 74SDformula

I believe this is the one you are talking about. Norwalk 2022.

that is my ra iv bird. still undecided if im going to restore it or just preserve it.

[einstein]

Originally Posted by 68hotbird

that is my ra iv bird. still undecided if im going to restore it or just preserve it.

They're only original once.

[AG]

What's the total number of non-TA RAIV 1969 firebirds?

[johnta1]

47 non-TA RA IV, I think. (55 RA IV TA's)

[johnta1]

Well, not sure, just saw another not that says there were 161 total RA IV with only 51 were TA's.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Supposedly 102 Ram4 Birds = Non-TA
Going by oPh posted stats that would be 80 4spd + 22 Auto


And 55 Ram4 TA's
46 4spd + 9 Auto

That's coming up with 157 cars
vs. the 161 count
So its getting close somewhere

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

January 2023 Kissimmee Mecum had a Ram4 4spd TA bring 400k dollars
Was a very prime specimen.

About 100k higher than a similar prime 70 HemiCuda 4spd Hdtp goes for.
And higher than prime 69 Yenko Camaro's by 50-100k

['ol Pinion head]

'69 RA4 M21 T/A hardtop............. 46
'69 RA4 M21 Firebird convert........12
'69 RA4 M21 Firebird hardtop........68
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Total '69 F-body RA4 WH builds... 126

['ol Pinion head]

'69 RA4 M40 T/A hardtop...............9
'69 RA4 M40 Firebird convert...... (?)
'69 RA4 M40 Firebird hardtop...... (?)
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Total '69 F-body RA4 XN builds.... 35

Trying to remember what I was told a few years ago on number of RA4 auto convert builds.
Wasn't many as converts, (3 ?) Was able to view the RA4 auto Expresso Brown leather interior convert 2 years ago. Fantastic cutting edge Concours restoration!!!