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Old 12-08-2007, 01:43 AM
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Here's MINE! (just a driver,needs paint)
It's pretty basic; M22,Blue custom trim. I've added the Honeycombs & bumper guards.
Other than radial tires,744 cam & Flowmaster American Thunder (transverse muffler) exhaust system,it's original!(oops,almost forgot about the vintage "Ricky Recardo's")
Had it to the track a few years back & it ran 13.9 on the T/A's.
Haven't driven it for about three years but this spring it's comin' out,FOR SURE!
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Old 12-08-2007, 05:50 PM
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... I've added the Honeycombs & bumper guards.
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bumper guards ? are you kidding me ? isn't that like adding a spoiler to a 70 formula ?

just kidding 2manyt/a's.....

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Old 12-08-2007, 09:54 PM
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bumper guards ? are you kidding me ? isn't that like adding a spoiler to a 70 formula ?

just kidding 2manyt/a's.....
Now wait JUST A MINUTE!
They ARE on the LIST & I didn't drill ANY HOLES for them.

Feel FREE to RIP on me for adding the "Ricky Recardo's",but they are FUN for NOW & I'll put the stock seats back in just as soon as SOMEBODY makes a respectable set of repro DELUXE seat covers.
(can we have the right color,PLEASE????)


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Old 12-14-2007, 09:45 PM
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I guess every week or so I have to prod the HO forum back to life....

Here is a question that is for the 455 HO experts. I can not find a definitive answer in any of the usual sources.....
How many of the four fasteners that hold the exhaust crossover to the head were studs and how many were bolts?

The parts book lists four studs and no bolts, but if memory serves my car had 3 studs and 1 bolt.
One of the four is a bear to install as a stud (too long) so possibly a running change was made for ease of assembly. Anybody have an unmolested car, or taken one apart?
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Old 12-16-2007, 10:42 PM
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I have 2 relatively untouched 71 HO cars that I can check for you if you can wait a week or so. Do you want pictures or is a description ok?

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Old 12-17-2007, 01:37 AM
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No hurry. No need for pictures either, just a description.
Please indicate either; 4 studs
or a mixture of studs and bolts.
If the latter, please describe where you found any bolts (ie LH side front, etc)
Also please post the build week and plant (for example 04A Norwood)
Thanks!

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Old 12-17-2007, 11:31 AM
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Paul,

Please post pictures too if possible. I would love to see an untouched 71 HO engine or two!

Giles,

Good questions on studs as people have asked me those questions, and I don't have the answers.

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Old 12-17-2007, 11:15 PM
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$1,400 for an original 455HO Ram Air Air Breather


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=300181061396

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Old 12-18-2007, 07:11 PM
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I bid 1000.00 on an unrestored version on Sunday and was out bid. My original is missing the flaps. DDUB

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Old 12-19-2007, 10:30 AM
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My '71 judge 455 HO ramair 70K miles had 4bolts with the coresponding washers, no studs. Very early car, E date on the block casting sept date on the car build...DDUB
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Old 12-22-2007, 12:16 AM
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I bid 1000.00 on an unrestored version on Sunday and was out bid. My original is missing the flaps. DDUB

I've got one too that is missing the flaps. Been searching for a while to find originals out there, but afraid they may never be found. I ended up buying the repro kit that makes the repro air cleaners out there functional. They have the flaps and the air diaphrams and brackets. Not a bad repro, but is made for the repro air cleaner. The flaps are close, but don't connect to the diaphrams like the originals and are off about a quarter turn. I plan on using original donor diaphrams and brackets from other air cleaners, as they are the same and can be pulled from any two barrel carb air cleaner. One could cut out another attachment area from a donor flap and weld into the repro, but would be fairly difficult. I plan on cutting the attachment peg down to fit into the repro flap and should be pretty un noticeable once installed. This is going on a NOM car I am building so doesn't have to be exact. The fit of the hole plug on the flap is off just slightly too....but it's a great alternative to nothing!

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Old 12-22-2007, 12:17 AM
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$1,400 for an original 455HO Ram Air Air Breather


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=300181061396

I saw that one too...it was restored. I just sold my NOS one a few weeks earlier for a little more than that one did. Surprised that one went that high. This stuff ain't getting any cheaper!

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Old 12-23-2007, 12:49 AM
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This is one of the toughest 72 HO parts to find.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1972-...QQcmdZViewItem

A NEW set of wires are going to be even TOUGHER!

Reserve is NOT met yet. (I figure he wants $500.00)

It will be interesting to see where it ends.

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Old 12-23-2007, 09:47 AM
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How about this 72 part, a 4 speed carb: buy it now is $3000:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1972-...QQcmdZViewItem

I am wondering why it has an upper vaccuum nipple on the top rear of the air horn. Anyone ever see this before? My 2071 July 71 dated carb does not have this.

I bought my 7042273 carb from them 3 years ago for $1000. I must admit they did an awesome job refurbishing the carbs. The engine starts with a click of the key. Now if I could only get the body man to do his work.....


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Old 12-23-2007, 10:56 AM
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This is one of the toughest 72 HO parts to find.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1972-...QQcmdZViewItem

A NEW set of wires are going to be even TOUGHER!

Reserve is NOT met yet. (I figure he wants $500.00)

It will be interesting to see where it ends.

I'd guess he wants more than 5 hunde. At least 1200 bucks I'd guess. Probably go for more but time of year may be factor.

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Old 12-23-2007, 04:05 PM
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How about this 72 part, a 4 speed carb: buy it now is $3000:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1972-...QQcmdZViewItem

I am wondering why it has an upper vaccuum nipple on the top rear of the air horn. Anyone ever see this before? My 2071 July 71 dated carb does not have this.
I have a nice unmolested original 270 (Nov 71 build) that doesn't have that vaccum nipple,but checked a few other 72 Pontiac(garden variety) carbs and they DO have it.
Perhaps the one on Ebay had the air horn changed out with a later/different one?
(The rebuilders tend to swap out alot of parts)

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Old 12-27-2007, 06:33 PM
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Can anybody identify this part? Valley pan part #489824...DW
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Old 12-27-2007, 06:35 PM
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Can anybody identify this part? Valley pan part #489824...DW
Doug - that would be an EGR-style pushrod cover. Original fitment would be '73-'79 Pontiac V8 except 301.

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Old 12-28-2007, 02:05 PM
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455 Block question: Were blocks with a 483677 casting# 455HO only, or were used in standard 455 applications as well?

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Old 12-28-2007, 03:17 PM
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455 Block question: Were blocks with a 483677 casting# 455HO only, or were used in standard 455 applications as well?
According to my info, the 677 casting block was used exclusively on 1971 455HO applications.

Someone with more block casting #'s experience may need to chime in here, though.

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