[Greg Reid]

You are right about the clarity. There are a couple of spots in that clip where I had to run it back to see if my eyes were playing tricks.
It was very difficult the first time through, to tell where the reflection of the flourescent lights on the roof of the car ended and the actual lights on the paintbooth walls began.
Has it even been buffed out any yet?

[robz]

Originally Posted by getmygoat

I think the body shell was painted empty, off the frame, no glass.. Nothing to mask.

Great Thanx...Is it too risky to replicate that method rather than masking everything?

[getmygoat]

Originally Posted by robz

Great Thanx...Is it too risky to replicate that method rather than masking everything?

You could do it on a rotisserie, but you'd still need to mask the top of the dash at a minimum.

[The Boss]

When it did get painted on the line, weren't there dolly marks - spots where the car sat on a dolly that didn't get painted?

[JasonD]

I would never try to paint a car body with the inside of the body not masked off. There are just too many nooks and crannys for a speck of dust to hide in. When you start spraying the car there is alot of compressed air flying around.....and any little speck of dust is always gonna come flying out to land in your fresh paint. It never fails.

If one were to be doing a car that needed to be acid-dipped......and the inside of the body was bare metal.......I would spray the inside of the body first to make it LOOK like it was oversprayed, and then mask it off and do the paint on the outside seperately.

[JasonD]

Originally Posted by Greg Reid

You are right about the clarity. There are a couple of spots in that clip where I had to run it back to see if my eyes were playing tricks.
It was very difficult the first time through, to tell where the reflection of the flourescent lights on the roof of the car ended and the actual lights on the paintbooth walls began.
Has it even been buffed out any yet?

Thanks Greg.

It looks good in the video but you should see it in person. It looks like a big, white mirror.

My dad did do a little light buffing on it yesterday before it was unmasked. The paint just turned out incredible. I just love those DuPont paint products.

[OU812]

Originally Posted by JasonD

It's not just myself working on the car. The entire family is working on it along with one of my father's employees so it gets worked on sporadically just about every day.

Turnaround time depends on the amount of work to be done and the condition of the car at the beginning. I give customers an estimated time of completion, but I'm not a guy who goes by a deadline usually. I'm not ever going to be like a Boyd Coddington who is throwing together a car at 3AM in the morning to make a photo shoot. That's not the way to build a car.

I can tell by the amount of progress this is not a brother/sister operation alone. (This will be my last comment because I don't wish to take away from a good restoration thread) The fact remains the other cars you have on youre site are not progressing over the Judge's same term. Please understand, for those shopping for a good restoration shop the lack of new progress on your customers' cars over the same period would be a red flag IMO and leaves the existing customers scratching their heads.

All this being said, you are very talented and I will be following all youre photoed projects for they are a good resource for us hopefuls.

[robz]

Originally Posted by JasonD

I would never try to paint a car body with the inside of the body not masked off. There are just too many nooks and crannys for a speck of dust to hide in. When you start spraying the car there is alot of compressed air flying around.....and any little speck of dust is always gonna come flying out to land in your fresh paint. It never fails.

If one were to be doing a car that needed to be acid-dipped......and the inside of the body was bare metal.......I would spray the inside of the body first to make it LOOK like it was oversprayed, and then mask it off and do the paint on the outside seperately.

Good point...So it could be done just like the factory did it if body was completely dust free...Then put on Frame...

[robz]

Originally Posted by getmygoat

You could do it on a rotisserie, but you'd still need to mask the top of the dash at a minimum.

Just wondering then if GM did do some masking, if that's the case..Just not sure if it was common practice as it is time-consuming and results could vary if manual masking was done...Every minute costs them $$$ no?

[TEG]

Originally Posted by Greg Reid

Here's a good pic of an original '68 carpet tag. From an HPP article.

Greg:

That is what I was looking for. The repopped ones I have seen are very different. Thanks for the photo. I will try to make that for myself. Do you think the part number is the same for a 1969 application?

[JasonD]

Originally Posted by OU812

I can tell by the amount of progress this is not a brother/sister operation alone. (This will be my last comment because I don't wish to take away from a good restoration thread) The fact remains the other cars you have on youre site are not progressing over the Judge's same term. Please understand, for those shopping for a good restoration shop the lack of new progress on your customers' cars over the same period would be a red flag IMO and leaves the existing customers scratching their heads.

All this being said, you are very talented and I will be following all youre photoed projects for they are a good resource for us hopefuls.

Well thank you for the compliment.

This car is not being done for my own enjoyment or crusing time. This car is being done as a restoration job out of my shop, just like any customer's car.

Please understand that not all my customer's cars are featured on my website. When I do a car the customer chooses whether or not to have their car's progress showed to the world. Some people choose that option and some don't. Some projects are of a longer term than others. Some cars are just paint jobs. Some are just interiors. The work on frame-off restorations usually progresses in bursts on different cars as they go from the teardown stage to the rotisserie to buildup.

My customers and I discuss completion dates for their cars and if for any reason any customer feels that I can't complete their car in a timeframe they can live with they are free to come get their car. I do my work and my business right out in the open for the whole world to see it.

[JasonD]

Originally Posted by robz

Good point...So it could be done just like the factory did it if body was completely dust free...Then put on Frame...

Yes it could be done. I would never do it though. There are too many hours of work put into making the body perfect to take a chance on a fat speck of dirt flying out onto the roof or something.

[JasonD]

Originally Posted by TEG

Greg:

That is what I was looking for. The repopped ones I have seen are very different. Thanks for the photo. I will try to make that for myself. Do you think the part number is the same for a 1969 application?

Speaking of interior tags.....

Does anybody have any pictures of the tags stuck on the bottom of the gauges? I got a new one with my detail decals but it was different from my original one.....so I had to re-use my original one.

[eaglesan13]

Can you send your dad over to my house for a few weeks?

Originally Posted by JasonD

I've got a bad case of the flu, so I laid in bed today. My sister came in around noon and asked for my camera.....so I knew something was up.

My dad decided to paint the Judge for me today! He's been painting since the early 70's so he's actually more experienced with single stage paint than I am. I haven't seen it in person yet but the pictures sure do look good. He says it turned out beautiful.

[TEG]

Originally Posted by JasonD

Speaking of interior tags.....

Does anybody have any pictures of the tags stuck on the bottom of the gauges? I got a new one with my detail decals but it was different from my original one.....so I had to re-use my original one.

Jason, I have them for my 1969 (non-air, with gauges and radio) but I might not be able to get photos for a couple weeks. If you can wait and if 1969 helps, I would be glad to get them for you.

[Held for Ransom]

I've never seen a 2U. What options did the vehicle have pertaining to the speedo? Most 1970 clusters have the WA or WD sticker. What does the sticker say for speedo number?

[Larry P]

I also have the 2U sticker on my 70 Oshawa car the number looks like 6498242 its pretty faded and hard to see there are two lines above it I cant read and it also says AC-Made in Canada

[Held for Ransom]

Can you read the cluster number (probably not)? It may be a Canadian thing.

[Larry P]

I cant see it its too faded out

[Greg Reid]

Originally Posted by TEG

Greg:

That is what I was looking for. The repopped ones I have seen are very different. Thanks for the photo. I will try to make that for myself. Do you think the part number is the same for a 1969 application?

I have no idea. I'm really not a numbers guy....I just remember that particular article about a completely original survivor '68 and that there were lots of pics for reference. Here's the article in fact.... Survivor, Pontiac Style