[Lloyd-TX]

If the auction runs it's course, I'd guess $110K

[Larry Navarro]

my guess...... between $80K - $90K

[165th]

My guess... "poof"... someone hit's the buy it now before it gets to the end.

[74 SD455 Formula]

Originally Posted by 2manyT/A'S

My recollection of the early T/A & GTO roadtests is that Ram Air III's,IV's,455 HO's & SD455 were ALL capable of high 13's right out of the box.
The Ram Air IV,which is the "dearest" of the lot,was ultimately the MOST dissapointing,considering it's performance potential & hype.
There is really two many variables involved to compare different cars driven by different drivers on different tracks,etc. etc. accurately.
SD's,especially 74's were HEAVIER with the safety bumpers & the majority of them seem to have A/C.
Running against a NON-A/C 455 HO T/A,would give the SD a 200lb weight disadvantage.
SD's were noteable because of the more "Bullet Proof "internals & simply the fact that 455 Ho power levels (from 1971), were MAINTAINED when the competitors were struggling just to meet emissions & fuel economy mandates with small displacement motors.

For the record,my 74 Formula was delivered with a curb weight of 3634 lbs.Non A/C car (thats for women ).So you must be talking about T/A's being heavier.I will never figure out you T/A guy's,havent you ever heard less is more????

[Brewster]

The cars are the same but for a couple plastic wheel flares and a spoiler. So whats that 10-15 lb's +/- between the two?
Oh yea, dont forget the weight of that screamin chicken.

[bird72]

The large heads of the TA owners contribute to the weight with driver differential when comparing to Formula owners and cars..

[Brewster]

Depending on options between the two cars is what would make the difference. I suppose the weight between the two hoods would count for a few pounds too.
Ones extremities might count for some weight differential but usually the heavy ones are found in TA’s.

[Brewster]

Hey Guys, looks like that car is going into the 6 figure digits.
I wonder what the reserve is and if anyone is going to make it go poof with that Buy-It-Now option.

[njsteve]

She's gone. Someone hit the Buy It Now button for $125,000!

[Brewster]

Wow,
It got some bidding action this afternoon and someone got nervous and decided to take it off the lot (poof).
Hope she finds a nice home and we get to see her again sometime soon.

Enjoy who ever got her, enjoy.

[Super Duty D]

165th.
You nailed it "POOF" its gone..............

SDD

[Brewster]

Yeap, good call Greg!

To bad for that Buy-It-Now cause I would have liked to see what the bidding would have reached without it.

[Super Duty D]

Brew,
I guess we know she was at least worth that. Sold. Done. Where are these cars going!!!???? WOW!

[x-bird2]

well, since this thread has a parallel thread to it and the present subject matter has ended with a BIN click, how about i derail it with something new. A long time ago i speculated (properly couched with the correct qualifying terms to indicate that it was purely speculation) about the SD's "103" cranks. Since there seems to be a fairly large group of SD owners perusing this thread, maybe we could shed a little more light on this. That is, the fillet rolled radii. I still am of the opinion that this was a '73 only treatment to the crank since these engines were being built off the line for that model year, and not all off them may have had the process performed. By 74 engine production time, i believe Herb and others who's pet this project was were gone from Pontiac and the engine was on the line with management's "eyes" on its production costs. my car (73) had its crank turned down .020 (1984) before i got it by a long defunct machine shop, which would've taken out any evidence of it had it been done this way. additionally, mine still had its casting number intact and no nodular iron "N" on it. Given that i do run the old girl hard, i swapped that crank for a 103 "N" crank just to be on the safe side. After the first Comparo articles ran, i did get a response from one reader who indicated that their crank had the radii treatment, and also that there had been some grinding or hot wiping/restamping on the crank number 'ala the intake manifolds. As far as the "nitriding" mentioned in the period SD evaluation articles, i'm sure all are aware that myth has long been debunked and probably came as a result of a marketing type misusing/understanding some terminology when writing the original press release.
Anyway, for those that have opened up original 73 and 74 SD engines i'm curious as to what they've found their cranks to be and whether anyone has any images. I'm also still looking for some images of the developmental intake manifold, Mark E. never responded to my question as to whether he had photos of his available.

[Brewster]

Sorry, I cant help due to neither of my engines have been apart. I'm surprised Mark did not reply however since he is very good and responsive. Hmmmmmmmm, might want to give that another try.
There was an article on this I saw some where and will try to pull it to see if it has and input.
Later,
Brew

[165th]

...POOF...

[Brewster]

Yeap, good call Greg on that auction.

How do you like that 4-speed 1974 car to follow right away. My guess is that know one bids on it.

[165th]

Brew, even though this is a little harder call, you know my prediction to this one.... "POOF"

Now what needs to be done is figure out the "POOF" number for that other car that's coming down the pipeline!

[Brewster]

Ok here is a rare find but is it worth four hundred and some dollars?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=220056688218
I wanted it but not for that kind of money, jeepers.

[74 SD455 Formula]

Brewster,
I have one of those.For the money if someone wants it it's theres.I have no problem with a repo if I will ever need one.I think thats getting a little carried away,dont you???