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Short Deck
So I talked to AP today.. im looking to buy a short deck 9.5 block. They are taking pre orders.. they need 6 in order to cast them... they have 3 paid for, I will make 4. Anyone looking to get in on the order?
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Scott,if they could do a 9.2 alu block im in.At 9.2 all the 303 RA V stuff will fit along with parts like 301 valley cover.They have made the "shorter" deck blocks before.I know Ric Johnson and Tom Vaught have them.Tom
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My deck height on MY Short Deck IA Cast iron block is 9.5" Tom.
It is NOT a 9.2" short deck block. Tom V.
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Tom! I said you have one of the "shorter"deck,never said you had a 9.2.And as far as I know no one except the factory has built a true pontiac short deck!A 9.5 does me NO good for all my short deck stuff!Tom
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I UNDERSTAND THAT PERFECTLY, TOM
The questions in my mind are: If all the rest of the blocks cast up and rough machined are 9.5 deck, then for you to have a 9.2 deck block you would cut an additional .300 off the deck so then what would the actual deck thickness be for YOUR block (or others if they decided to go to the 9.2: deck dimension) be???????? If the deck was 1.00" thick then you could still have a .700" deck with your street car 9.2" IA-2 Block for good gasket sealing/etc. My opinion, a .500" deck is not going to cut it for a block used in any performance application. Tom V.
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Tom,I'm told the issue is the oil filter.The factory blocks did not use the filter bracket that all other blocks use.The 301s and 303s were unique where the filter screws onto the side of the block.As I said,I'm out if a 9.2 can't be worked in.Tom
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[QUOTE=tom s;6249326].As I said,I'm out if a 9.2 can't be worked in.Tom[/QUOTE
] Did you not read the OP's post? He asked about 9.5" iron blocks, and AP are having trouble finding just 6 customers, what on Earth makes you think they can just knock up one ali 9.2" block? |
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Hope springs eternal!Tom
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Tom S
Had to laugh! "all the 303 RA V stuff will fit" I'll call Summit right away to see what's available.
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KRE actually made a shortdeck alu for Pickett some years ago.10000 RPM 428.Tom
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I would be happy just to get ahold of an iron one.. not sure that will happen anytime soon..
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Scott,I understand,even if the deck was thick enough to safely cut a xtra 300, I think it get down into that oil filter bracket location.I would take a iron if it worked,good luck with the effort.Tom
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Tom S
Are you trying of use all original RAV parts? If not, other than having to have intake manifold spacers made and a custom length distributor. What else needs to be modified to use a 9.5" deck block? Stan
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And yes the Pickett engine was a bad boy engine. Tom V. I have a few extra Kellogg/ Moldex RAW Forgings if someone wanted to do a very strong forged crankshaft (billet cranks do have a grain structure direction that makes them stronger in one plane vs in the other plane). Forged steel does not have that problem. 7 others over the years have purchased and had Joe grind short stroke cranks for them over the years. Joe at Moldex would finish the cranks to your stroke length. 3.5" is the top stroke. Next crank I have done will be a 3.375" stroke crank, like the 366 cid Pontiac engines had. Tom V.
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Stan,if I wanted to spacers I could just use my stuff on a 10.2 block.Way more EZ for what I do is use a 301 block.Tom
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Did they give a price? And any kind of time frame? I might be interested depends greatly on time frame
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The word I heard was 4K, (or possibly more with special camshaft/valve train. options)
Tom V.
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Yes, 4k if u buy 1..
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So you heard the number from two people now, Brian. Pony up if you want one.
Tom V.
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I'm buying 3 so I got a better deal.. If you want in Brian, 0m me and we can discuss. |
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