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Old 07-22-2021, 08:49 AM
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Default Liberty Blue '69 GTO coupe on BaT

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originally a Verdero green car, see trim tag.

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Old 07-22-2021, 10:03 AM
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I guess this might bother some people but I never care when I see a car switched from it's original color to another factory correct color.

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originally a Verdero green car, see trim tag.
I'd say the seller made the right call

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I guess this might bother some people but I never care when I see a car switched from it's original color to another factory correct color.
Unless you own it, and it's a factory Butternut yellow, or Desert Sand, right?

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Old 07-27-2021, 11:42 AM
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Well, this is another interesting one to keep an eye on. One day left to go. The Burgundy one was at 22.5K at this point in the auction and this one at 7.4K. The Liberty Blue one is much less desirable certainly. It has a fair amount of typical "go fast catalog goodies" added to it but not stuff that can't be corrected. The color change is probably a 15-20% hit vs original color. If this one can land in the mid 20's somewhere, that is what I would expect in the current market. I think the fact that the original owner really wanted his car back drove the Burgundy GTO into no mans land. It will be fun to watch.

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Old 07-27-2021, 11:46 AM
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I agree- I would expect this car to be much higher by now.

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Old 07-27-2021, 06:49 PM
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Bidding doesn’t usually take off until the last 5-10 minutes.

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Old 07-27-2021, 07:27 PM
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... The color change is probably a 15-20% hit vs original color. If this one can land in the mid 20's somewhere, that is what I would expect in the current market.
Since there is nothing whatsoever about this car that is rare other than it is a '69 GTO, I disagree with you on a price hit for the color change. Not only that but the car isn't perfect and not a fresh total restoration/restomod.
On the color, It might make a difference to some people but zero to others. Might be others looking at it that don't like the green too.

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Old 07-28-2021, 01:07 AM
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I’m not a buyer, but I’d rather have the blue over the green, If I could get one at a discount because it was not the original color but the repaint was well done in a nice factory color I like, that would be a perfect situation .

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Guess I’m in the minority…..I would chose Verdero Green over any blue as my preference.

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I think they are both beautiful colors and like them equally.

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Old 07-28-2021, 09:11 AM
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I’m not a buyer, but I’d rather have the blue over the green, If I could get one at a discount because it was not the original color but the repaint was well done in a nice factory color I like, that would be a perfect situation .
That's exactly where I land on the color change too! I much prefer Liberty Blue to Vedoro Green. Even though the Green has grown on me over the years. But from a value standpoint, there is always a hit for a color change, no matter what. My percentage may be off, it was just a guess from looking at some valuation tools. Liberty blue is a great color.

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That's exactly where I land on the color change too! I much prefer Liberty Blue to Vedoro Green. Even though the Green has grown on me over the years. But from a value standpoint, there is always a hit for a color change, no matter what. My percentage may be off, it was just a guess from looking at some valuation tools. Liberty blue is a great color.
I’m just not sure the discount always applies or it is not very big, maybe this is the situation here too.

Eg. of where I don’t think color change is going to hurt as much,

White Trans Ams, maybe you can’t change the color of white 70RA4’s, or73SD’s, but painting the other early ones blue, or a 73 green or red may not result in a very big price drop.

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Old 07-28-2021, 12:20 PM
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I’m just not sure the discount always applies or it is not very big, maybe this is the situation here too.

Eg. of where I don’t think color change is going to hurt as much,

White Trans Ams, maybe you can’t change the color of white 70RA4’s, or73SD’s, but painting the other early ones blue, or a 73 green or red may not result in a very big price drop.
Agree here. If this blue one were an RAIV, different story. That is unless a buyer was going to do an entire body-off restoration anyway which is a good chance would happen with an RAIV car in the condition this one is in. Then there would be no difference.

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I think changing a cool vintage cars color messes with it's mojo. And mojo is sacred

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Agree here. If this blue one were an RAIV, different story. That is unless a buyer was going to do an entire body-off restoration anyway which is a good chance would happen with an RAIV car in the condition this one is in. Then there would be no difference.
Why jump to the thought process it has to be something as ultra rare as a RA4? Changing the color on a factory decent 400 WT '69 GTO hurts value, know a ton of fellow enthusiasts that deduct huge for such a color change. Liberty blue, I agree is pretty color, but not being factory coded that color swap will always hold that particular car back. Do agree its not a high appreciating '69. Mid 90's, I did quite a bit of work on a '69 a liberty blue/parchment inter '69 convert. Typical 400 auto AC, no gauges, no posi, south central dealer order car. Pretty combination, nice but not something that I'd own. Over the years, have examined verduro green 68 & 69 Birds & Goats that were done so well, they would grab anyone's attention! Locally, there was a crystal turquoise/parchment no AC WT '69 that was brought in from out of state. Overpaid for, & had a thrown together bbc under the hood. Was then quickee thrown together into a 72 72 Judge clone. Nearly everyone I ever ran into that cked out that car had the same question: "Why".... and I can't say most of those folks were purists. Many were bug smacker GTO owner types that just couldn't see the waste of such a well optioned 69 hardtop to restore, even if not to the nth degree.

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I add value to cars that have had a color change to something I like.

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I think changing a cool vintage cars color messes with it's mojo. And mojo is sacred
Even if it was Mayfair Maize?

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