[Tanque Racer]

Glad to see both of you guys are still around and still dealing with Poncho stuff! Although I didn't discover them until the late 80's, you're books were the technical inspiration for the engine that I use in the world famous Yanque Tanque (the worlds fasted 1970 roadracing Trans Am). I still run your tri-y headers to this day! (any chance you'll build them again one day?)
Thanks so much for sharing all your information with the Pontiac world. It is greatly appreciated and used daily by so many of us.

BTW I second the nomination for VP's!


www.yanquetanque.com

[TRADERMIKE 2012]

Originally Posted by Craig Hendrickson

In a prior thread about H-O Racing's "Rocket Box", Tom Vaught asked about the H-O Racing Tunnel Ram intake manifolds. In that thread, I stated that I would post info about them separately. This thread is that disclosure.

Here's a picture of H-O's 326 NHRA E/MP engine with the "canted carb" tunnel ram fitted. BTW, this is 1972 tech, just so you can get your head around it.

Tradermike2012: I am trying to insert the correct Photos, as close as I can, back into this broken Post. PY Forum past post H-O Document. Wish me luck!

[TRADERMIKE 2012]

Originally Posted by Craig Hendrickson

Here's another view from the top of the Version 2 H-O Tunnel Ram as it exists today.

Tradermike Here: I have two sets of Tunnel Ram Photos, one from H-O and One from A Boat, see if you can tell which is which. I will group them separately.

[tom s]

10 years after Pontiac made the factory Bathtub tunnel ram.Tom

[TRADERMIKE 2012]

Mikes Reply: Here is the second set from H-O.

[TRADERMIKE 2012]

Mikes Reply: Here are a few more Tunnel Ram "H-O" provided.

[TRADERMIKE 2012]

Originally Posted by Craig Hendrickson

Here's another view from the top of the Version 2 H-O Tunnel Ram as it exists today.

Mike here, Inserting top view as per post:

[TRADERMIKE 2012]

Originally Posted by tom s

10 years after Pontiac made the factory Bathtub tunnel ram. Tom

Mike Here, as I scour my computer for the Bath Tub Photos, keep in mind that the Photos already presented so far contain the "Bath Tub" look, which is the Tunnel Ram less the top Plate that Holds the Carbs.

These Pictures of Motors were too Good to pass up so I Inserted them Instead of nothing. Mike out.

[TRADERMIKE 2012]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

Originally Posted by INJUNTOM
I nominate these guys for PY VIPs



Actually you get two free passes to the Submarine Races too (;>)

You get nominated to be a PY-VIP if members feel that you have contributed a significant amount to Pontiac Knowledge or Pontiac History. I think that you and Kern fit that deal in both cases.

Tom Vaught

Mike here: It is a shame for me "not" to Post some extra Photos, as I am taking the time to look through my Archives, bare with me, here are a few more:

[TRADERMIKE 2012]

Originally Posted by taff2

Yes that would be cool, testing your state of the art back in '76 parts against modern counterparts to see how far things have advanced, or haven't as the case may be.

Mike s Reply: There are people on the PY Forum Manufacturing Dual Quad. As we speak, I wonder how many were built so far, chine in with the answer and how you're doing with that project? I don't think they are coping with the Ram Air Box, however if it was me, I would use today's version and put it in a Box like H-O did and install it under the Dual Quads. I would use those 4" spacer Phenolics with 4 tapered cones inside to act as the Ventures in the modern version, that is if I were to create one. For now, I am happy with my Tri-Powers.

[TRADERMIKE 2012]

Originally Posted by Tanque Racer

Glad to see both of you guys are still around and still dealing with Poncho stuff! Although I didn't discover them until the late 80's, your books were the technical inspiration for the engine that I use in the world famous Yanque Tanque (the worlds fasted 1970 road racing Trans Am). I still run your tri-y headers to this day! (Any chance you'll build them again one day?)
Thanks so much for sharing all your information with the Pontiac world. It is greatly appreciated and used daily by so many of us.

BTW I second the nomination for VP's!


www.yanquetanque.com

Mikes Reply: Here are some more Photos as I read on through this post: These Exhaust Articles from "H-O" are from Hesster1977 contributions, thanks to him we will be receiving all his "H-O" information and more over the next year or so as we build this Post as "The Pontiac place to see".

[TRADERMIKE 2012]

Originally Posted by Tanque Racer

Glad to see both of you guys are still around and still dealing with Poncho stuff! Although I didn't discover them until the late 80's, you're books were the technical inspiration for the engine that I use in the world famous Yanque Tanque (the worlds fasted 1970 roadracing Trans Am). I still run your tri-y headers to this day! (any chance you'll build them again one day?)
Thanks so much for sharing all your information with the Pontiac world. It is greatly appreciated and used daily by so many of us.

BTW I second the nomination for VP's!


www.yanquetanque.com

Mikes Reply: I found the Tri-Y Pontiac and "H-O" Headers, I would think the Factory ones are the cast ones and the Tubular are from H-O

[TRADERMIKE 2012]

Originally Posted by Craig Hendrickson

They are already hoarding "High Output" newsletters and those were only pieces of paper. :-)

H-O Racing had plenty of 'trick "nostalgic" parts'. The TRs were the early fun ones. Maybe someone can wrestle one or both TRs from Selden's sons and try them on a modern Pontiac race engine. That would be fun.

Mike s Reply: We are bringing the "H-O" Articles back to where they can be read in the future, so Craig Hendrickson and Kern's ambitions will be realized.

[TRADERMIKE 2012]

Originally Posted by Craig Hendrickson

There was at least one magazine article done on the H-O ver 2 TR. It was published in the July 1976 Super Stock & Drag Illustrated magazine. Here's a link to it in PDF format. Be warned that it is 11MB!

http://www.originalho.com/TunnelRam/ss07-1976.pdf

Mikes Reply: I went over the Internet and found this only: Note, if you can find that Article you can read what it said.

[TRADERMIKE 2012]

Originally Posted by Craig Hendrickson

We don't really know about the ultimate power on the 326 or using that TR on any other combination because shortly after we built it and started testing at Lion's Drag strip, Vic Edelbrock Sr saw it (when it was off the engine). Vic in turn called Jim McFarland, who was Editor-in-chief of Popular Hot-Rodding magazine at the time to suggest that PHR do a story on us. This led to:

A feature article in Oct 1973 PHR, followed by a feature article in Mar 1974 in PHR. This resulted in a "fantastic response" (PHR's words) by Pontiac fans. This led to:

Our writing two books (Pontiac HD Parts & Specs and Pontiac Engine Design & Assembly) to try and satisfy an overwhelming request for information from Pontiac fans. This led to:

Me resigning my "day job" in the USAF in order to run H-O Racing Specialties full time. This led to selling the complete 326 engine w/TR to Selden Ruwwe to raise cash to operate the business startup.

These events meant that we did not have much time to further flog the 326 or TR or the 1965 Tempest (nee GTO) race car.

Here's a picture of the 326 installed in Selden's 1963 aluminum front end (non-SD) Tempest. He successfully campaigned it in that configuration for a couple of years. Then he had us build a "380" (1958 370+0.060) for that car, but that's another story. :-)

Mikes Response: Since I don't know which Vehicle, they are talking about, I will Post what Photos I have on them.

[TRADERMIKE 2012]

Originally Posted by TRADERMIKE 2012

Mikes Response: Since I don't know which Vehicle, they are talking about, I will Post what Photos I have on them.

Here are some Photos of the Motor he will speak of in the future in this or another Post:

[TRADERMIKE 2012]

Originally Posted by Craig Hendrickson

In 1976, as part of our project to build a "380" (1958 370+0.060") for Selden Ruwwe, we built a 2nd Tunnel Ram for it. This one was oriented toward possible commercial production. It used the runners from the then new Edelbrock TR1-Y TR manifold and the plenum from Weiand for their BBC TR. Here's a picture of the finished piece:

Mikes Reply: I have Inserted these Photos into this Post, look toward the end of the Post. I want to give credit to Hesster1976 for his contribution to Articles he submitted to this Post that I am able to share were needed.

I want to give John Wallace some credit because some of the Photos came off his site and not all are signed in his Hand. This concludes Mikes contribution to this PY Forum about H-O for now. If anyone has Information to Insert here get ahold of me and I will download your Info to a file on my computer and input it here. I am going to pick another H-O Document to fix now, by for now.

[sdbob]

Nice to see these photos. There should be another tunnel ram around. Jim Miller in Monroeville Pa. area built one around a small block Chevy tunnel ram. The manifold went on a 303. I was there when he was cutting and fitting. This was before 1974. The engine first went into a 61 Catalina, then a 1970 Formula. I never saw the car run. Then the parts were sold off. I do not have pictures. I think Jim had some kind of plans maybe he got when buying the 303 parts from Pontiac engineers.

[TRADERMIKE 2012]

Originally Posted by sdbob

Nice to see these photos. There should be another tunnel ram around. Jim Miller in Monroeville Pa. area built one around a small block Chevy tunnel ram. The manifold went on a 303. I was there when he was cutting and fitting. This was before 1974. The engine first went into a 61 Catalina, then 1970 Formula. I never saw the car run. Then the parts were sold off. I do not have pictures. I think Jim had some kind of plans maybe he got when buying the 303 parts from Pontiac engineers.

Mikes Back, I thought I was done tonight, I just ran into a few Photos I want to share: Notice to the right of the NHRA tall Tunnel Ram, see that object that looks like it came out of H-O Tunnel Ram, at least the idea anyway?

[TRADERMIKE 2012]

Originally Posted by TRADERMIKE 2012

Mikes Back, I thought I was done tonight, I just ran into a few Photos I want to share: Notice to the right of the NHRA tall Tunnel Ram, see that object that looks like it came out of H-O Tunnel Ram, at least the idea anyway?

I said in an earlier Post here, that I would put two of these Parts in a Box over the Tunnel Ram flat plate with Dual Carbs on top, if I get tired of the Tri-Powers: