[scott70]

I got 2 bfgoodrich ta 245 60 15 shipped to me. One was made 26th week of 2020 the other is 17th week of 2019. I've read where they shouldn't be selling new tires over a year old if they can help it. Should I say something about the "old " tire or is it the norm and it'll be fine?

[PAUL K]

If they look them same I'd roll with them and be happy you were able to purchase the BFG's.... They're making less and less of the "cool" stuff. They'll be okay, my 245/60 Cooper's are more than fifteen years old and still see 140 plus occasionally.

[Formulabruce]

Those tires are made in batches. There is no regular production of them. Probably made in Mexico.

[JLMounce]

You “could” mention it, but as mentioned this isn’t a high volume tire any longer. I wouldn’t be concerned about it being a year old if it was kept indoors as is typical.

Just burn them off in 4 years instead of 5

[scott70]

They were both made in mexico. The tire looks fine and still has the sticker on it. I guess I could give them a call,,,pretty sure theyll just say its fine. Ive got a couple of 255 60 15 bfg coming soon. The tires that were on it were 235 70 14 that were put on in the late 80's and havent been made in years. Still decent tread but I dont trust them anymore for any high speed runs. 14" tires are hard to find the sizes I want so I jumped to 15x7/15x8 ralley 2's.

[Jay S]

Scott are the 245/60-15s for the front? On the back I wouldn’t worry at all, with your new engine there demise probably will be from something other than time or milage.

On the front it would have been nice to have some made the same date. I would just put them on though. I would at least wait till the white lettering turns brown to return them.

I had a tire thread on another site a while back on tires that last, time not to mileage. I think I will do Coopers from now on instead of bf goodrich’s. We have some old tires that look like new yet, and some newer tires that the time machine wasn’t kind. One set of Goodyear’s from early 90s that didn’t far well. A coupe guys replaced the tires every 8 to 10 years. I have some tires going back into the 90s, 80s and 70s. Of the tires I looked at there was a set of M&H racemasters that I have that still look new. The old Armstrong’s in one of photo’s in that thread are still holding air. Lol

I have not had good luck with Goodyear’s sidewalls for some reason. Paul K going 140 on some aged tires makes me feel a tiny bit better about the 15 mile 120 mph average speed I did on some studded snow tires once.

https://psp.pontiacstreetperformance...c.php?f=5&t=51

[Hoodshaker]

There's nothing wrong with a year old tire. I don't think any of us tosses (non track depleted) tires after a year. The service life of the rubber compound of a quality tire (not talking tread wear) should be between 5 and 10 years, barring extreme conditions. Here's what BF Goodrich has to say about it.

It is impossible to predict when tires should be replaced based on their calendar age alone . However, the older a tire the greater the chance that it will need to be replaced due to the service-related evolution or other conditions found upon inspection or detected during use. While most tires will need replacement before they achieve 10 years, it is recommended that any tires in service 10 years or more from the date of manufacture, including spare tires, be replaced with new tires as a simple precaution even if such tires appear serviceable and even if they have not reached the legal wear limit. For tires that were on an original equipment vehicle (i.e., acquired by the consumer on a new vehicle), follow the vehicle manufacturer's tire replacement recommendations, when specified (but not to exceed 10 years).

There's more info on the subject at the BFG website under "Service life for passenger car and light truck tires including spare tires". I just posted what seemed to be the most relevant paragraph. https://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/faq-page.html


I just bought a set of tires from Tire Rack for the daily driver G8 GT that are going on in the morning (different brand). They were discounted a little over 70% since they were produced in 2017. This is disclosed up front on the site. What you don't want is a place selling you a 3 year old new tire at full price and non-disclosed. In theory you've potentially lost some life on the back end. I'll run out of tread before age becomes an issue..

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by scott70

I got 2 bfgoodrich ta 245 60 15 shipped to me. One was made 26th week of 2020 the other is 17th week of 2019. I've read where they shouldn't be selling new tires over a year old if they can help it. Should I say something about the "old " tire or is it the norm and it'll be fine?

When I have purchase tires over the last several years, I always check the dates.

I've never had more than a month or two difference in a set of 4.

The fact that you have over a 14 month difference on the purchase of 2 tires tells me that the supplier is not properly rotating his tire stock.

There is no good reason to have a tire that has been in the warehouse for 14 months sitting right next to one that has been in the warehouse for a month.

I would demand an exchange for a tire that is within 60 days of the newer tire.

[scott70]

Since i put the 235 70 14's on in the late 80's and still have decent tread I would say tire age on the new 15's will be a concern and not me wearing them out. I did plenty of burnouts with the 14's but really no standing burnouts which I would think would wear them out the quickest. The new 245's are for the front and the 255's are for the back.They look alot wider than the 7" tread on my old 14's. Ill give them a call and see if theyre willing to do some thing,,,if its a no hassle i guess its ok but if they dont want to exchange that would be Ok ,,,Id rather have them both made in atleast this year. We'll see what the 255's say when they get here.

[Formulajones]

It's not worth the hassle and the shipping costs in my opinion.

They may exchange it for you if you call and insist, but I seriously doubt they cover any of the shipping charges.

[The Champ]

They shouldn't charge for shipping for sending a fresh replacement. If they want the outdated tire back, they can send a shipping label at their expense.

[geeteeohguy]

Originally Posted by The Champ

When I have purchase tires over the last several years, I always check the dates.

I've never had more than a month or two difference in a set of 4.

The fact that you have over a 14 month difference on the purchase of 2 tires tells me that the supplier is not properly rotating his tire stock.

There is no good reason to have a tire that has been in the warehouse for 14 months sitting right next to one that has been in the warehouse for a month.

I would demand an exchange for a tire that is within 60 days of the newer tire.

I would too, since these tires are no longer very cheap. You pay a premium, expect premium results, IMO.

[scott70]

I called and explained and they emailed me a prepaid shipping label. Boxed it up and its already on its way back. They had one left with like 34 on order. She said if the next one is the same way one of the next 34 will be fresh when they come in.. Also had to send back one of the 15x7 ralley wheel that came yesterday,,,,edge of the rim was bent and scratched pretty good,,,,box was a little damaged so probably shipping.. Good thing Im not in a hurry.

[mgarblik]

Originally Posted by scott70

I got 2 bfgoodrich ta 245 60 15 shipped to me. One was made 26th week of 2020 the other is 17th week of 2019. I've read where they shouldn't be selling new tires over a year old if they can help it. Should I say something about the "old " tire or is it the norm and it'll be fine?

I sell tires at my shop. The two tires you mention are roughly 14 months apart in production date. I personally will not sell a tire that is over 1 year old without the customer knowing about it and an appropriate discount from the vendor. Not saying it won't be just fine, but the customer is buying "new tires" which also implies "fresh" tires IMO. Same goes for a batteries. I won't install a battery with a production date over 6 months old. My vendors have no issue selling me new and fresh parts.

[Steve C.]

When the subject of Cooper tires comes up. This stated regarding them.....

A characteristic feature of Cooper tires is their competitive price tag combined with rather low wear, which is achieved by rigorous quality control according to one independent source.

Another tid bit if interested. It has been reported Mickey Thompson Sportsman S/T is made by Cooper. Having purchased and used both I can say, although similar, they have a slightly different tread pattern. This not unusual on subsidiary brands and done so for marketing reasons. One would hope they have similar construction.

Rather dated but there is this....

Cooper buys Mickey Thompson performance tire company

https://www.tirebusiness.com/article...e-tire-company




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[scott70]

I did read about the bfg lettering turning brown and then bfgoodrich fixed the problem but then people were still having problems........i guess we'll see if 2020 tires are any better. My 1980's bfg's always cleaned up with some westleys beach white.

[Navy Horn 16]

While we are talking about tires, is there any such thing as a decent 15 inch Pro-Touring (or road course) tire? I've got Mickey Thompson ET Street Pros on, and they are t!t$ on the drag strip....but I'm .11 from getting kicked off the track for lack of a roll cage. I'm about to shift focus from going straight to making a curve or two, and the sidewall of these drag radials aren't super awesome in turns.

[Steve C.]

Is there any such thing as a decent 15 inch Pro-Touring (or road course) tire?

NO

Of interest, this from Popular Hot Rodding magazine years ago.....

"Wheels: How big is too big?

The general rule is to only use as big a wheel as you need to clear brakes and suspension components. The weight of an average car for road racing usually requires brakes that are too big to fit inside 15-inch wheels, so larger ones are used.
So the question becomes what is the best size wheel to use ? It's natural for us to think that bigger is better, and it's true that the general public prefers the look of larger wheels, but don't let that trick you. Oversized wheels will slow you down. It all comes down to moment of inertia. The excess weight of a larger wheel is an important issue, but the diameter of it is a much more important factor. The effect of a 10-pound weight at the end of a 12-inch string is much less than a 10-pound weight at the end of a 36-inch string. The larger-diameter wheels are not only heavier, but are much harder to control the rate of rotation like the weight at the end of the string.
Now let's look at overall tire diameter and the effects of sidewall flex. Let's say you've decided on a tire diameter and are looking at what combination of wheel diameter and sidewall height to run. The taller the sidewall, the more flex it can have. This is a good and a bad thing, but mostly a bad thing. When the sidewall id tall, it can deflect quite a bit, throwing away any sense of your suspension alignment settings. Too short of a sidewall a sidewall can be oversensitive to surface conditions, and gives you far less warning before traction is lost. The trick is to find the right balance.
The sweet spot for most of our muscle cars and track cars is 17- or 18-inch wheels. this isn't just our opinion, but that of many industry insiders. The 12- or 13-inch rotors usually chosen by the road racing crowd fit in these wheels just fine, and don't need the additional clearance given by a 19-inch or larger wheel. Consistent with that, BFGoodrich doesn't even make their sticky road race R1 tires for any wheel larger than 18 inches in diameter.
So why does NASCAR still use 15-inch wheels ? The rules mandate these 15-inch wheels and have for many years; knowledgeable fans speculate that this rule won't change. It can be argued, however, that oval track cars use this tall sidewall as a part of their tunable suspension. Since their quickness is defined by how they can plant power out of the turns, tire pressure can be used to improve that.
That brings us to ask why new Corvettes and Vipers use such large wheels. The simple answer to that is because they look cool. There is no advantage to these larger wheels except their looks. The laws of physics would suggest that using a smaller wheel while still clearing the brakes would make the car faster.


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[Navy Horn 16]

So, I need to find some NASCAR road course tires.

Got it.

[Steve C.]

I retract what I said. If you start digging you can find something like these and others similar.....

Dunlop DIREZZA ZIII

But are they true road race tires. They say "Extreme Performance Summer" tires. At least they have a nice modern tread pattern


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQiNibYzTQo

Another example....

Toyo
PROXES R888R
Racetrack & Autocross Only

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