[tekuhn]

I wonder if anyone has a picture, or perhaps the bracket itself, used to attach the instrument cluster to the dash when there is a clock installed in the rightmost pod instead of a blank face? The blank face bracket does not clear the back of the clock, so I assume there is either a different bracket, or the clock itself should have a mounting stud installed in the rear cover. If it's a separate bracket, perhaps it's also the same one used when a tachometer is installed?

The clock I restored was taken from a '64 LeMans cluster, and it fits perfectly, but perhaps it is missing the mounting stud if the '63 used one.

[Peter Serio]

The 63 Lemans clock has a rear case similar to a 64 except it has a giant stand-off with a threaded stud made into the back of the housing.

The 63 Lemans clock would be a clock specific to that one year. The '63 second hand and hour numerals are bolder and wider than the '64 or newer A body Pontiac clock.

[tekuhn]

Thank you- exactly what I needed to know. I will add the stud to the back of my ‘64 clock rear cover.

Did the ‘63 factory tachometer also have a stud on the back since it went in the same location?

[Peter Serio]

You are correct, the '63 Lemans tach had that same mounting stud on the back of the case.

The '63 tach came in 2 different versions; one for a 4 cyl car and one for a V8, (both would have been for a points distributor).

The 64 tach came in 3 versions: 6 cyl, V8 with points distributor and V8 for a car with the Delco transistor ignition option, (very rare).

[tekuhn]

Thank you, Peter! The short rib on the cases makes it pretty easy to see where to drill for the stud. I hope to have mine installed tonight.

Maybe you could answer another question for me? I’m thinking about adding the ‘65 Ralley Gauges, but hesitate because they have a black background instead of the blue. My radio has the blue background. Is the ‘66-‘67 background color any closer to correct?

[hobbygto65]

There's no place to put the stud on 65 gauges, thats where the oil and temp gauges are

[Peter Serio]

The 66-67 version of Lemans/GTO rally gauges would be a closer match to your radio color but you will run into clearance issues with the mounting vs the wiring plug-ins for rally gauges.

There was never any gauge option available for '63 Lemans due in-large part to the way the bezel mounts into the steel dash. The steel is housing is also where the gauges get their ground to transfer over & into the car body. Via those 2 mounting studs on the back of the housing.

[tekuhn]

Originally Posted by hobbygto65

There's no place to put the stud on 65 gauges, thats where the oil and temp gauges are

Ah - good point. Looks like those are the repro gauges in a '63 dash? Did you fabricate another way to secure that corner, or just go with 3 attachment points?

[tekuhn]

Originally Posted by Peter Serio

......... The steel is housing is also where the gauges get their ground to transfer over & into the car body. Via those 2 mounting studs on the back of the housing.

Even with this clock installation, I went ahead and used a socket with a ground wire for one of the illumination lamps to make sure the clock body was well grounded.

[hobbygto65]

No haven't decided on that yet, maybe just a screw through bottom below the gauge into the dash frame. Here's what front looks like.

[tekuhn]

I like that. Look nice!