[scott70]

Thanks !!! Glad to hear that the consensus is that red black white is the correct color combo. If I had to choose one that would be it. Should look good against the turquoise paint. Are there any diagrams that show exactly where the stripes are supposed to be positioned? A measurement from the tip of stripe to the nose of the car? From the top of fender to the top of stripe? Are the stripes supposed to wrap into the door jamb about a 1/4" like it shows in the pic from marxjunk? When you get a stripe it comes in one piece. You lay it on the car,cut it at the door gap in the middle and wrap around whats left over?

[marxjunk]

assy manual and the GTO resto guide have the dimensions

[Joe's Garage]

The original stripes are three pieces, with extra length built in for the overlap.

That way you can adjust them for differences in door-to-fender and door-to-quarter panel gaps so that they start and end at the same point on both sides.

I haven't bought any of the repros as we still have a decent supply of NOS stripes, but I'd presume they are the same.

The red/black/white stripes don't 'work' with every color, but they'll look great on your car.

I've seen an assembly drawing with dimensions for placing the 1969 stripes on a 1970 - will try to find it and post it.

Good luck!

[Diego]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

The red/black/white stripes don't 'work' with every color, but they'll look great on your car.

Not only does it "work" with every car, but Pontiac said so!

Additionally, I believe earlier the OP was asking about the GTO decal? See attached.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

The D98's look really sharp on a Red, White, Black or Silver car.

The other exterior colors , i'd rather not see the stripes at all.
Just a pure personal preference - of course.

Oddball typo on that document listing the D98 as Black Red YELLOW
Some lady needed another cup of coffee .

[Joe's Garage]

The white/black/red just doesn't look right on many of the factory 1970 colors.

Too bad Pontiac didn't just allow the factory 1969 Judge stripe/body color co-ordination to bleed over to the 1970 GTO optional stripes. I think those combos worked very well.

[Diego]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

The white/black/red just doesn't look right on many of the factory 1970 colors.

On the other hand, specify redlines on a car from the 1960s and the color of the car was not an issue. That's cuz red will be a decent match for all colors. Look at the 1971 D98 stripe choices (the early dual-tone stripes, not the sword stripe) – there was red/black or red/white. That tells me the designers felt red was a decent match for all available colors.

[scott70]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

The original stripes are three pieces, with extra length built in for the overlap.

That way you can adjust them for differences in door-to-fender and door-to-quarter panel gaps so that they start and end at the same point on both sides.

I haven't bought any of the repros as we still have a decent supply of NOS stripes, but I'd presume they are the same.

The red/black/white stripes don't 'work' with every color, but they'll look great on your car.

I've seen an assembly drawing with dimensions for placing the 1969 stripes on a 1970 - will try to find it and post it.

Good luck!

That would be great if you could post those dimensions,,,thanks!
Also,,Im assuming theres also measurements on call outs on the fenders and trunk lid?

[ponchjoe]

Attached are the 70 GT 37 instructions but let me tell you that when installing the stripes you have to let the body tell you were to go. I did the ones on my 70 LeMans by test fitting and using masking tape to set the boundaries.

This was way off in my opinion.

[MIAGIMAN]

Sometimes you can’t always believe what’s printed or said, I have a 70 RA IV unrestored GTO that a friend of mine bought new,, so I know this car from Day 1. It is a Gold unrestored car GTO Nationals 08 and was built on July 1 1970( possibly one of the last RA IV’s built per the late Great John Sawruk at 2008 nationals who critiqued the car for a group) that came with the 69 judge stripes in red yellow black on a white car, so I guess as long as they had them, they installed them.

[scott70]

I wonder if the car was ordered by someone with those colors of stripe or thats the way it was on the lot? I know what you mean,,,you just never know but it sounds like pontiac intended the stripes to be all white,red.black and it is said to be early cars only,,,mine was january which I wouldnt consider real early.Would like to see some pics of your car.

[MIAGIMAN]

Yes my car was ordered with the 69 stripes, also noted on the PHS and and sales invoice, with 4 speed 4:33, am/fm tape deck wood wheel opera reading lite, all to go racing. His brother had the same car, but automatic that I have the motor and trans to and the PHS ..... good times when we could walk in an order a real muscle car to our specs.

[West Coast GTO]

I have NO historyor knowledge regarding this but, in the Thomas DeMauro " Pontiac GTO" book he states:
"Another interesting option was the Accent Stripe sold under code 422. At the beginning of 1970, the option consisted of a 1969 Judge stripe that could be ordered on regular GTO's. Later, it changed to include the 1970 eyebrow-style Judge stripes. ."

[Diego]

I'm still waiting to see documentation (I'm guessing a marketing bulletin) that states the '69 stripe was replaced by the '70 stripe. I've seen references to this in resto guides but no one has ever been able to provide substantive proof. I guess I'm just skeptical but I have an open mind.

[MIAGIMAN]

I'm going to take a picture of my invoice sheet, stating stripe with code and attempt to put it on a message this week. That seems pretty substantial to show you could order the 69 stripe if you desired.

[Diego]

I don't think there's any doubt the '69 Judge stripe was option D98 in 1970.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

No doubts about that, plenty many of examples exist.
My old 70 Bermuda Blue GTO still had its factory applied Black/Red/White sword stripes in place.

The only things questionable are different color patterns of the sword ,
the Resto Guide blurb about eyebrows ,
and another anonymous blurb about only on early cars.

None of those have ever been proven.
Mostly just dis-proven.
We've probably all seen various configurations after the fact.

Could venture a possible sword color being alternate by request "maybe" .
Or even an on-hand supply shortage.
But the build materials/inventory were supposed to all be accounted for before the build was given approval to hit the line.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

All the various 69 Sword colors would not have been kept in supply at the assembly level in 1970.
Just the given staple of Black/Red/White

[scott70]

Soon I will be putting on the original white/red/black 69' stripes that came on my 70 gto. I bought a assembly book that has a page on decal and stripe placement and also I have a original 1970 pic of my car when it was new. Looking on the internet at 70 gtos with the d98 stripe I find some different placements of the stripe. I noticed on the 70 gto commercial on youtube that the stripe is a good inch above the door handle and found another GM pic that shows the same thing. But looking at my original pic of my car the stripe is very close to the door handle and my assembly manual says .10" minimum between bottom of stripe and top of door handle. So did pontiac in the beginning intend to have the stripe that high but before actual production decided it looked better to swoop it down more to give more of the coke bottle look? My manual also says the short curved stripe that goes under the rear window,,theres supposed to be 1.94" from top of stripe to bottom of the scallop in the metal which in the youtube video commercial and the GM pic that there isnt nearly that much space. I think they must of swooped it down more for final production. I have seen some restored 70 cars on the net with the 69 stripe and they installed them in the riding high position,,,(incorrect?).

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

This is the car i had with original stripes intact.
The only picture i have of it, from mid-80's.
Was an April 1970 car. D98/422 invoice car.

It had been repainted once - but they masked off the stripes when they painted it - it was evident.

I would call it more in the low position at door handle.
Whatever it takes to get under the mirror and above the door handle on driver side with a good flow to the quarter and fender would be the main concern to me.