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Old 01-25-2021, 10:26 PM
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Hey Everybody,
Anyone know of performance brake shoes for street/strip?
These guys?
https://www.porterfield-brakes.com/c...ll%20Race.html
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Assuming your car is mostly street driven, is there a specific need that is causing you to want a race compound in your car?

I know it's not apples to apples, but as a senior BMWCCA HPDE (i.e., road course) instructor, I spend a lot of time in cars with race compound brakes, including my own. My experience has generally been that street compounds stop better on the street than race compounds because they are specifically designed to have good bite at the lower temps typical of street driving. And drag racing is not particularly demanding on brakes in the grand scheme of things. So if you're mostly driving on the street and only occasionally going to the strip, I probably wouldn't recommend those Porterfield race brakes you linked to, which are primarily intended for use in vintage road course racing.

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Another source...

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Yes - I lack the funds for a disk conversion and want a better strip stopping = Higher Initial Bite at lower temps. Increased drum wear is not a concern.
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http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/bra...nic-brake-kit/


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If you are seeking higher initial bite at low brake temps, installing a race compound shoe may at best make no difference given your use case scenario. There is a decent chance they could make initial bite worse, since your brakes won't have any real heat in them at the end of a 1/4 mile run, and race compounds really don't work all that well unless they have some heat in them.

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Zegermanham - So what you're saying is perhaps a street replacement semi metallic brake shoe might be what would work best in my situation?
Actually, I believe that's what I have right now.
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Zegermanham - So what you're saying is perhaps a street replacement semi metallic brake shoe might be what would work best in my situation?
Actually, I believe that's what I have right now.
Thanks, Craig
Yes, that is my overall stance here. I would look into what options are out there for semi-metallic street compound shoes. Not all are created equal, so that's what I'd start researching.

I have 4-wheel discs on my car and have never needed to buy parts for drum brakes, so unfortunately I can't provide any recommendations beyond the general suggestion of not using a race compound on a street/strip car. Also, I've never been a fan of ceramic compounds. They are low dust and noise, but tend to lack initial bite.

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Hey Everybody,
Anyone know of performance brake shoes for street/strip?
These guys?
https://www.porterfield-brakes.com/c...ll%20Race.html
Thanks Again, Craig
is your car front disc? if so i suggest trying the HAWK brand HPS brake pads up front with powerstop brand slotted rotors. they made a huge difference on my disc/drum street/strip car at the drag strip doing 121+mph & they have excellent "low temp bite." they are not a true "race only" pad & have lower than OEM dust & are not too aggressive on rotors/drums.

i use "heavy duty" semi metallic raybestos shoes in the rear & this car stops better than my 81 4 wheel disc t/a & far better than my 78 disc/drum t/a with stock type pads/shoes.

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A good subject here. Hawk and others have different t brake pad compounds. There are a lot of choices to consider.

I have Wilwood Dynalite kits on the front and rear, both now upgraded to 12.19" rotors. And as an example I use their "Q" compound.


https://wilwood.com/PDF/Flyers/fl227.pdf


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A good subject here. Hawk and others have different t brake pad compounds. There are a lot of choices to consider.

I have Wilwood Dynalite kits on the front and rear, both now upgraded to 12.19" rotors. And as an example I use their "Q" compound.


https://wilwood.com/PDF/Flyers/fl227.pdf


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Hawk only has 2 compounds im aware of. HPS is the street compound, HPS stands for "high performance street" they say they provide up to 40% greater stopping power & better resistance to brake fade. for street/strip the HPS are excellent pads, too bad they dont offer a performance street shoe for drums.

their race pads are the DTS series. EBC had 2 or 3 levels of compounds too.

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