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05-06-2003, 06:58 PM
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Does anybody use ND (non-detergent) oil anymore for the first fire of a brand new motor? This stuff sure is getting hard to find.
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05-06-2003, 06:58 PM
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Does anybody use ND (non-detergent) oil anymore for the first fire of a brand new motor? This stuff sure is getting hard to find.
TIGER EFI - Electronic Fuel Injection for the Traditional Pontiac Engine. bill@tigerefi.com
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Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same. -RONALD REAGAN 462 cid/ 6x-4/ TH400/ 3.36:1/ 28x10.5/ 3880#/ 12.35 @ 109.36/ 1.69 60 ft/ 4 wheel disc brakes/ 15 mpg |
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05-06-2003, 07:16 PM
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yes...I used it on my 474 with ultradyne solid cam(as recommended by UD).
easily found at wal-mart, truck stops and convenient stores. 1973 SD455 T/A 1979 S.E. T/A http://community.webshots.com/album/16587603rOyvmFCiHs
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05-06-2003, 07:19 PM
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autozone usally carrys costal 30ND, the guys up there said they rarely sell it. said it picks up during the summer people use it in lawn mowers. my question is does any of the major manafatures still make ND30?
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05-06-2003, 07:29 PM
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Motorcycle shops are another source. Most motorcycles utilizing a wet clutch (ie 99.99%) still require ND oil to be used in the tranny.
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05-07-2003, 04:36 AM
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Thirdgen....last year i noticed that NAPA sells Valvoline ND 30wt oil.
1973 SD455 T/A 1979 S.E. T/A http://community.webshots.com/album/16587603rOyvmFCiHs
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#7
05-07-2003, 04:56 AM
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Quit using it in the early seventies as it won't take the heat and doesn't have the properties to contain break-in contamination.
A thing of the past.  Better honing procedures and materials now-a-days. Just go get you a cheap brand of non recycled (new) HD 30 and set the rpm's to 2000+ for a 1/2 hr and then drain the oil and replace the filer with what your gonna use. The K.I.S.S. method.  I even break-in my race engine with Synethic oil and go race with the same oil.  Build it fast, build it right, build a Pontiac. http://PontiacDude.cc |
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#8
05-07-2003, 07:29 AM
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Dude...perhaps the reason for the Non-Detergent type oil is it doesn't have the additives that tend to "wash" away the cam assembly lube that us flat tappet guys depend on for minimal lobe wear during break-in. I used it per cam maufact. recommendation. Plus using just the outer valve springs during run-in makes it easier on the cam.
Here lately the increase amount of posts regarding lobe failures; just one more reason not to second guess it. After the initial run-in...YES, change oil /filter to the highest API rated oil. Granted if your using a roller tappet cam, then your recommendation is a logical approach. 1973 SD455 T/A 1979 S.E. T/A http://community.webshots.com/album/16587603rOyvmFCiHs
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05-07-2003, 12:50 PM
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Use synthetic and forget about it..........
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05-07-2003, 01:27 PM
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My builder recommended and we used Mobil 1 5W30 for break in and the dyno runs - so far so good!
'72 455HO with a flat tappet solid lifter cam. Later, Lloyd '72 Formula 400 - soon to be a 455HO, TH400, A/C, etc.; Lucerne Blue with Medium Blue Interior Restoring a '72 GTO 455HO, TH400, A/C, etc.; Sundance Orange with Parchment buckets
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