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Old 03-01-2021, 10:11 AM
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I believe he mentioned on FB putting the Warp6 motor into his 64 GTO.

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Old 03-01-2021, 12:04 PM
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Buddy of mine said that Youmans is proline powered and went a 3.91. Nice to see him run a number but sad that he took the Pontiac out
He ran a 3.949 with the Pontiac.

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Old 03-01-2021, 12:07 PM
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Elephant in the room.

How many clean passes did he have on the car before turning it around backwards into the wall? How many clean passes afterwards with the Poncho motor?

I'm thinking not many, which is why I'm scratching my head pondering if enough test consideration was given before jumping ship to another power plant?
Exactly. I believe he ran 1.06-1.07 60 foot times. What are the others in the class running? The Pontiac showed the power to run 3.8x.

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The new engine is being run by several people and has parts availability. Not a nitch engine that he is doing all the r and d on. I dont blame him. Hope he keeps playing with the warp engine to.

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Old 03-01-2021, 04:48 PM
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Exactly. I believe he ran 1.06-1.07 60 foot times. What are the others in the class running? The Pontiac showed the power to run 3.8x.

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3.90’s would put you in the bottom half of the field in a 32 car field. It is a DNQ in a 16 car field.

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I think it all comes down to the "personal goals" of the owner of the car. Through his actions, Mr. Youman has decided that being fast enough to qualify in a class and put himself in the best position to win an event, (s), required switching to a well proven, cookie cutter engine that can get him there with readily available parts if something were to go wrong. IMO, there is nothing wrong with that. It's just a change in goals and outcome for that car. Is he no longer a "Pontiac guy?" I think that is a harsh assessment of all the effort he put into the project. He obviously likes Pontiacs, or why else would he have spent what has to be well into 6 figures developing a Pontiac style engine as far as he did?. However, in my mind, this particular car is no longer a Pontiac at all. Just a Pontiac body shell housing a generic purpose designed race engine no different than if our Boss Bird funny car would have run a Brad Anderson Hemi. Possibly he will build and race a traditional Pontiac powered car in the future or switch engines back and forth depending on the class and venue. I wish him luck either way. I will add that qualifying #1 at the NHRA Hot Rod Reunion against a field of all Hemi cars was one of the proudest days of my life as a real Pontiac guy. Did it win us anything? Not a damn thing other than smiles and cheers.
It’s not even a Pontiac Body Shell...none of it rolled off an assembly line in 1970. All aftermarket body panels.

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Palbykins Pro Mod/ Big Chief's 70 Body shell (steel roof) actually came from a location out west. It started as a Pontiac built on a assembly line.

Agree the Youman car is all aftermarket parts. Now even the engine is not Pontiac based.

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It’s not even a Pontiac Body Shell...none of it rolled off an assembly line in 1970. All aftermarket body panels.
Are you sure, or are you just guessing?
I thought the body was a factory steel just tweeked in a few areas.


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IMO, I think with the right car, right Pontiac engine and right tuner, bottom 3.80’s to 3.80 flat would not be out of the question in pro 275 with a boosted Pontiac combo.

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Yawn, I've lost interest in Youman now.... not really a Pontiac guy,just a guy with too much money....boring
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Elephant in the room.

How many clean passes did he have on the car before turning it around backwards into the wall? How many clean passes afterwards with the Poncho motor?

I'm thinking not many, which is why I'm scratching my head pondering if enough test consideration was given before jumping ship to another power plant?
Me too, #3.

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Lol... of course he did... love the little Pontiac but like I and many others said, it can't swim in the ocean...
Glad to see he got away from kre's money pit..

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IMO, I think with the right car, right Pontiac engine and right tuner, bottom 3.80’s to 3.80 flat would not be out of the question in pro 275 with a boosted Pontiac combo.
Possibly.... its a stretch that few to none are willing to risk.. I know if I had the budget to rum 275pro, it wouldn't be strained on Pontiac parts.. ROI is key at that level..

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This must make gto george sad...😢

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I don't know if Tommy's Pontiac engine was maxed out (boost) or not. But the Pontiac made 3350 HP on a hub dyno which should be close to 4000 HP @ the crank. So what does a new Pro Line engine make?

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I don't know if Tommy's Pontiac engine was maxed out (boost) or not. But the Pontiac made 3350 HP on a hub dyno which should be close to 4000 HP @ the crank. So what does a new Pro Line engine make?

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Doesn’t matter what the plr motor makes. It’s what can the tire hold. As crazy as it might sound, it is harder to slow a fast motor down then it is To run a slower motor wide open.

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There was a time when the common wisdom was that anything over 700 hp required a racer to abandon the Pontiac and go BBC. The people that were willing to work harder and spend $$ proved that the bar can be moved.

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Doesn’t matter what the plr motor makes. It’s what can the tire hold. As crazy as it might sound, it is harder to slow a fast motor down then it is To run a slower motor wide open.
John,
I understand that. Not sure if they have ever had a handle on the 60 foot times. Pontiac ran a best of 3.949 in the low / mid 19x's MPH. I do not know if it was first time out with Pro Line engine. The one run I can find is 3.914 @ 203.7 MPH.

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Are they allowed TC in 275pro?

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He had it on a hub a second time and posted a video of it making over 3600...





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