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Wife’s Volvo, 87,00 miles, only had to replace the brakes. |
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You've had bad experiences with older used (to you) Cadillacs. I've had excellent experience with both of my personal Cadillacs and both of my personal Chevy's that I purchased new. My 2014 ATS was a certified preowned when I purchased it with 12,000 miles. Had 80,000 totally trouble free miles (gas, oil and tires only) when I traded it in and it was 8 model years old. The CT4 Sport is only at 6,000 miles. Thinking about a 2011 - my old company car was an '11 Chevy Impala. I put over 250,000 miles on that car before turning it in to another rep with a much smaller territory than I had. Only 1 non routine maintenance repair on it in those 250,000 miles with a repair bill of about $400.00. |
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Even so, you originally claimed it was a 300 pound difference and it's almost 450, so you were off by 50%. My numbers were for the weight of a current Camaro which is on a totally different platform and the difference is either a little over or a little under 600 depending on if you have an automatic or a stick. |
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light tension piston rings that cause the engines to use oil and cause the oil to get very dirty, and the change oil light is set to come on way too late considering these two facts. Most people never check their oil, so they are constantly driving around 2 or 3 quarts low on oil. On the 3.6, the first thing that happens when the oil is low is the timing chain doesn't get any oil. On a 3.6 liter GM, ignore what the dash says and change the oil when it starts to look a little dirty, and check the oil every few weeks and don't let it get more than a 1/2 quart low., and use Mobil 1 in the engine I recommend 10W 30 instead of 5 W30. If you do these things the timing chains and guides won't go bad. |
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2. I don't now about 2013, but the current 2022 455 HP 6.2L V8 Camaro starts at $35,195 or nearly $3,000 less than a Challenger 375 HP 5.7L V8 which starts at $38,375. More cubes, more HP, lighter weight, better handling and less cash. |
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Also worth noting that I was basing this off of what was actually available in real life pricing on the lots. Maybe the Camaro started closer or lower in MSRP, but that was not reality on Las Vegas car lots at the time. You can chock that up to timing or location maybe. Every single SS that seemed to actually be produced and available was an LT3 or whatever their max trim level was at the time and was $38-42. Meanwhile you could get into an RT Challenger for more like $30k or maybe even a little under.
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I'm not saying Cadillac is a bad car.... when they're new.. Once its out of warranty dump it.. Because that is what you are going to have to do as the resale on them sucks... at least in this market it does..
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For any car you can name there will be some people who think it's great, and some who think it's terrible. Arguing about it on the Internet is pointless.
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The 1SS base price was more like $32,000 back then. You were most likely looking at the 2SS - the upscale model. From KBB.com Quote:
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As soon as you made your claim - I knew the real difference was more like 500 pounds back then and was even more today. |
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That was a work vehicle. I drove over 1,000 miles per week for work back then covering my territory in southern MN and northern IA. I spent a lot of time on back country roads and even gravel roads. I frequently had the trunk full of batterie core's to return to one of the 5 stores that serviced my customers. The "delicate touch" was that regular routine maintenance was performed - REGULARLY. But that car was used hard. I "dumped" my ATS when it was nearly 8 years old (1 month shy of the new model year), It was well out of warranty and I never had a mechanical or electrical issue with the car. Maybe the Cadillac's that you have been exposed to have been road hard and put away wet without the benefit of regular routine maintenance. As to dumping my 8 year old ATS - I got $19,000 for it in trade off my CT4 last July - after getting over $5,000 off sticker price of my new ride. |
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