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Old 07-30-2023, 04:39 AM
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Default Oil level in the engine.

If pontiac thought it was a good idea to put a total of 7 Qt in the 1966-67 V8s, using a 6 Qtr dip stick, why didn't they continue with it for 1968 and later engines?

And, yesterday when I filled the engine in my 66 GTO with a total of 6 Qts, my 6 Qts dipstick indicated "Full", which obviously indicates that the block pipe is too short. I then fabricated an extender for the block tube so that a 5 Qtr dipstick indicated "Full". 5 Qts in the tray plus 1 Qtr for the (long) filter.
Should i add another Quart of oil to have "Full" on the original 6 Qtr dipstick (total of 7 Qts)?
Thoughts on this?

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Old 07-30-2023, 09:57 AM
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My 67 Catalina Sport Coupe with a 325 HP 400 needed 6 quarts to fill the pan. My 79 Trans Am needs 5 quarts. The pans are virtually identical.

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The sticks are the same with the full mark a little higher on the stick.

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Drain oil and filter completely. Install new filter and exactly 6 quarts. Start for a few minutes. Let sit. Check where it is on stick and scratch a new line for full. If I’ve run hundreds of 9 second passes on 6 quarts, your street cruiser will be fine with 6 too.

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The engines before and after 1966-67 use 5 Qt rods but both the 5 Qt and the 1966-67 6 Qt rod say "Do not overfill".
Why was it necessary to overfill the engines with 1 Qt in 1966-67?

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Pictures, I have used these for years that’s the difference at some point they determined 5+ filter was enough. I still run 6 to the full mark.
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The operators manual specified 6 quarts + 1 for the filter. The dip stick always read at the full mark after running it checking for leaks.

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If pontiac thought it was a good idea to put a total of 7 Qt in the 1966-67 V8s, using a 6 Qtr dip stick, why didn't they continue with it for 1968 and later engines?

And, yesterday when I filled the engine in my 66 GTO with a total of 6 Qts, my 6 Qts dipstick indicated "Full", which obviously indicates that the block pipe is too short. I then fabricated an extender for the block tube so that a 5 Qtr dipstick indicated "Full". 5 Qts in the tray plus 1 Qtr for the (long) filter.
Should i add another Quart of oil to have "Full" on the original 6 Qtr dipstick (total of 7 Qts)?
Thoughts on this?
Somewhere along the way I read that they went to 5 quarts to reduce the amount of oil mist being pulled through the PVC valve. Less oil being drawn into the intake made the engine emissions cleaner.

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Not an expert but I have had 4 Pontiacs and have always just put in 6 quarts and looked at dipstick. Never had an issue with oil volume, just other things LOL

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It could be reason is that later Pontiac 400's got rid of the windage tray.

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