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Old 07-20-2011, 10:02 AM
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Default G8 6spd swap?

My mom has a G8 with the V-6 and I love that thing, so comfortable, I want one with the V-8, but I want the 6spd, and not have to track down a GXP

I am curious if anyone has seen anything yet on swapping in the 6spd into a regular GT

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Old 07-20-2011, 03:12 PM
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More trouble than it's worth. There are a few GXPs for sale nationwide.
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More trouble than it's worth. There are a few GXPs for sale nationwide.
how's it more trouble?

I have seen quite a few guys with BMW 740i change over, and its not a problem for them.

I think a swap would be pretty much straight forward.

only problem I see is the crossmember maybe.
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how's it more trouble?

I have seen quite a few guys with BMW 740i change over, and its not a problem for them.

I think a swap would be pretty much straight forward.

only problem I see is the crossmember maybe.
Well then go for it. You'll need the pedals, tranny, console, ECM/BCM and a good tuner to defeat/disable the Displacement on Demand that the 6.0 has but the 6.2L doesn't. Should only cost you about $5-7K.
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Well then go for it. You'll need the pedals, tranny, console, ECM/BCM and a good tuner to defeat/disable the Displacement on Demand that the 6.0 has but the 6.2L doesn't. Should only cost you about $5-7K.
Not sure if I am reading into your post too much, but I detect some attitude. Not sure why...

like I said in my original post,
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I am curious if anyone has seen anything yet on swapping in the 6spd into a regular GT
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consoles seem to be the same from all the pictures I have seen, not sure how the active fuel management would affect anything as the 04 GTO with the manual had it IIRC
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Not sure if I am reading into your post too much, but I detect some attitude. Not sure why...

like I said in my original post,

Anyways.
consoles seem to be the same from all the pictures I have seen, not sure how the active fuel management would affect anything as the 04 GTO with the manual had it IIRC
Because it's more money and trouble than it's worth.

Consoles are NOT the same.


Don't confuse AFM with Skip Shift. NOT THE SAME. You really need to educate yourself on the cars and understand what it would take to do the job. Not saying it can't be done but after all the time effort and money you'd be better off just buying a GXP.
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I'd go check g8board to see if anyone has attempted it. I think what Mr. GTO is saying is that to go buy a GT and do the swap, you'd have GXP money into it so why not just GXP to start with?
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:22 AM
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I actually found yesterday a guy who did it.

I dont remember which forum.

But his swap looked great. BUT he used really high end stuff, like a ZR1 clutch/flywheel

I did some more research and it appears that the Holden VE aka G8 was made with the manual option and used a tremec T-56, to me that means all the parts should be readily available from GM.

The few 6 speed GXP's I have seen for sale on autotrader and ebay are well into the $40Ks, those guys know what they have
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I certainly think they have something as well but time will tell. Sounds like a plan then, look forward to seeing it through!
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Local guy here in Atlanta did an A6 to M6 conversion on a GT plus a bunch of other mods. Pretty good threads on it over at the G8 board. Like others have posted, by the time he got it all done and tuned, he was way over GXP M6 $. I didn't really see the point. But he has a unique ride as a result.

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Because it's more money and trouble than it's worth.

Consoles are NOT the same.

Don't confuse AFM with Skip Shift. NOT THE SAME. You really need to educate yourself on the cars and understand what it would take to do the job. Not saying it can't be done but after all the time effort and money you'd be better off just buying a GXP.
I wasnt going to reply, but the sheer level of arrogance and ignorance and lack of reading comprehension is forcing my hand.

I realize the active fuel management and the skip shift are not the same. next you want to tell me how a 14" wheel and a 18" wheel arent the same.

how do you know the consoles arent the same? DaveGA used the same one with a holden shift boot on his conversion.

as I have said it before, and now again hopefully this time you will understand. I AM NOT CONVERTING A G8 TO A MANUAL TRANSMISSION.
This is simply a hypothetical/has somebody done it discussion thread as this is a discussion forum
. not a "hey Mr GTO says its all too hard dont do it" thread.

if you seriously cant handle a discussion I suggest you leave this thread alone.

Im not sure what your problem is, but I suggest you go work on your life so hopefully you dont have to argue and fling insults on an internet forum to feel good about yourself.
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I wasnt going to reply, but the sheer level of arrogance and ignorance and lack of reading comprehension is forcing my hand.

I realize the active fuel management and the skip shift are not the same. next you want to tell me how a 14" wheel and a 18" wheel arent the same.

how do you know the consoles arent the same? DaveGA used the same one with a holden shift boot on his conversion.

as I have said it before, and now again hopefully this time you will understand. I AM NOT CONVERTING A G8 TO A MANUAL TRANSMISSION.
This is simply a hypothetical/has somebody done it discussion thread as this is a discussion forum
. not a "hey Mr GTO says its all too hard dont do it" thread.

if you seriously cant handle a discussion I suggest you leave this thread alone.

Im not sure what your problem is, but I suggest you go work on your life so hopefully you dont have to argue and fling insults on an internet forum to feel good about yourself.

And I responded as a normal rational human being...it's MORE TROUBLE THAN IT'S WORTH.

and based on your post you didn't know the difference between AMF and Skip Shift. This is what you said: "not sure how the active fuel management would affect anything as the 04 GTO with the manual had it IIRC"
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And I responded as a normal rational human being...it's MORE TROUBLE THAN IT'S WORTH.

and based on your post you didn't know the difference between AMF and Skip Shift. This is what you said: "not sure how the active fuel management would affect anything as the 04 GTO with the manual had it IIRC"
please reread my earlier post.

and its called reading comprehension, get some
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I've seen a couple GXPs on the boards for 32 to 35, not worth the effort IMHO when they can be found for a decent price. Irregardless of whether you can actually do it or not... Moral of the story so far as I can see, yes it can be done but doesn't make much sense. Then again most of the things we do to our cars don't "really" make much sense!!
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Neither year of the GTO had AFM, thank goodness.
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Neither year of the GTO had AFM, thank goodness.
I thought the 04 had the AFM and the DOD, no?
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I thought the 04 had the AFM and the DOD, no?
LOL......jesus christ. NO GTO HAD THAT. Only the G8 GT and the new Camaro with AuTO have it.
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some videos of Dave Ga's G8 GT with the M6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpBUbwHX7NE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v043EaEtne0
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