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Old 08-27-2023, 12:59 PM
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The pattern I posted is what I got back from Al Knoch. Compared to the original pattern on the mid-'70s ones,

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/\ wait, i thought the grain pattern was 70-72/73, then it changed??

That reads almost like it changed at or after the mid 70’s…

I stated mid-'70s because of the casting date. I don't know when they went from the "beach sand" pattern to the "light erosion" pattern and I don't know the vehicle year this dash was pulled from (but light green may be a clue, thinking Esprit). This early-'70s dash doesn't have a casting date, unless it's the pressed in number. But does/did have a blue film covering the backside.
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Old 08-27-2023, 02:09 PM
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Here is the date stamp on the backside of the original dash (4-8-70), Made in Canada B Uniroyal stamp, and 84/8 chalk mark (???). Not sure if the last pic is clear enough to see the grain pattern, but has a stretched little worm groove look to me.

Hmmm, they are upside down when looking at the backside of the dash, but I rotated the images so they would read right-side up, but I guess they don't stay that way when transferred...

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Ok I figured I’d ask just incase;
When I got my car in 1995 it had a replacement (1978+) dash installed;
I pulled this one over twenty years ago from a 1975 Formula - I have understood that it’s not the early pattern;
I just figured I’d ask incase…

Unless something different literally falls in my lap, I wasn’t planning on using anything else.
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Jonny, It sure looks correct to me. Heck, I'd use it if I had it...gladly!

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Jonny, It sure looks correct to me. Heck, I'd use it if I had it...gladly!

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Dug them out. See if you think they look the same now. Of course touching them from the screen, they're going to feel the same. LOL.
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Old 08-27-2023, 06:32 PM
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Mike, Help me out...which one is which...(LOL)?!

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Top (black) has casting date of 10-2-73 and grid date of Dec. 1973. Ink stamp MADE IN CANADA INSP-(ector) 13 UNIROYAL front and date of 021174 back.
Bottom (green) has no casting date or grid nor ink stamping anywhere.

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Dennis, did this car have the original radiator with the tag? You mentioned a 3 core, so an FM. Do you have a picture?

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Dennis, did this car have the original radiator with the tag? You mentioned a 3 core, so an FM. Do you have a picture?
Mike, I'll have to check...but I'm thinking since the radiator was gummed up pretty bad when we got it, it was a replacement and didn't have the original tags, or else we would have taken pictures of them...and I don't see any pics of the radiator we removed.

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A good friend told me about an old radiator repair shop in Ferndale, MI called Ferndale Radiator Repair that still rebuilds/re-cores old radiators and heater cores the old fashioned way. It's good to know a few still exist for our old cars. I do need to have the original 3-core radiator rebuild as it is plugged bad, so will probably take it down there this spring.

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Mike, I'll have to check...but I'm thinking since the radiator was gummed up pretty bad when we got it, it was a replacement and didn't have the original tags, or else we would have taken pictures of them...and I don't see any pics of the radiator we removed.

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I was just going by this other post. Thanks.

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Well, now I'm just going to have to check upstairs to see if I really do have it...lol! I wonder if I was confused with the original 4 core radiator in my '71 455HO Formula...?

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