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Old 08-04-2017, 03:16 AM
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Stock GTO clutch fan is about 19.5" diameter(I believe)? What are you using? Also, you might want to check/replace your motor mounts. They're cheap, and they really help keep the fan from being too close to the bottom of the shroud.
The gap between the top of the shroud and the fan on my 72 decreased once I got the motor mount spacer plates installed.

Carmine, how close is your center steering link to your oil pan? Mine was rubbing. Now it is not since I installed the plate. My fan is now more centered in the shroud opening. Apparently these A-bodies have issues with sagging engine crossmembers.

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The gap between the top of the shroud and the fan on my 72 decreased once I got the motor mount spacer plates installed.

Carmine, how close is your center steering link to your oil pan? Mine was rubbing. Now it is not since I installed the plate. My fan is now more centered in the shroud opening. Apparently these A-bodies have issues with sagging engine crossmembers.
I know the center link isn't rubbing against the pan. How close it is to it, I'd have to take another look, Carmine.

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The gap between the top of the shroud and the fan on my 72 decreased once I got the motor mount spacer plates installed.

Carmine, how close is your center steering link to your oil pan? Mine was rubbing. Now it is not since I installed the plate. My fan is now more centered in the shroud opening. Apparently these A-bodies have issues with sagging engine crossmembers.
I miss Squidward... he had a lot of helpful posts...

I just installed a new radiator and find the clearance between fan and shroud is barely enough to avoid contact. I could probably lengthen the mounting slots and gain a little by pulling the bottom of the shroud down but I'm wondering:

- how to tell if the motor mounts are causing the droop?
- what are the "spacer plates" Squidward described?
- assuming the mounts are the problem, how hard are they to replace?

Here's the mess (without the pump pulley):



Does the shroud look like the right one for my 70 LeMans?

I did replace the transmission mount many years ago so perhaps that's too high as b-man describes in this thread:

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...errerid=160974

I also replaced the support (with the shroud) back then and think I got the mounts correct but I'm capable of messing that up. Do the rubber cushions mount between frame and support like I have:



And finally, the front bumper is off. Any chance that's enough weight to improve the clearance?

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Photo would have helped
- how to tell if the motor mounts are causing the droop?
- what are the "spacer plates" Squidward described?
- assuming the mounts are the problem, how hard are they to replace?
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Old 03-17-2023, 02:27 PM
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If I remember correctly, those rubber bushings actually go under the support. Not like you have them.

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Thanks... good timing, I was just headed to garage to look at it again.

I pulled out the book. It is kind of hard to interpret and it's been too long since I installed the support but I think there is a "grommet sandwich" squeezing the support. And it appears there is a spacer that controls the amount of the squeeze. I read this as the "sandwich" sits below the frame horn as I have it.

Anyone have photos of "known correct"?



I hope it's right because raising it up won't help my fan clearance!

Reading through several older threads, it sounds like this loss of clearance is a common ailment and unfortunately, a PITA to replace the mounts and/or add shims under the frame mount. Especially for those of us that don't own a hoist.

I've got higher priorities for now but I'll try to inspect the mounts and I predict dealing with this is in my future... arrrrghhhh...

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I think this is correct.

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Thank you. That seems consistent with the assembly manual and is the way I did it.

I tightened it up today and there's about 1/2" of clearance between the fan and the shroud. Good enough for me now, but could be better.

I do remember putting in a new transmission mount and as b-man suggested, it may have contributed to the clearance loss. If so, that's a lot easier to deal with!

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- what are the "spacer plates" Squidward described?
I believe squidward was referring to something like this:

https://butlerperformance.com/i-3164...tegory:1393554

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Old 04-26-2023, 01:22 PM
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I believe squidward was referring to something like this:

https://butlerperformance.com/i-3164...tegory:1393554
Ahhhh!!!

Thank you for sharing those parts.

I have not spent any time investigating so not sure of root cause. Those look like a good band-aid if my mounts are intact and the sagging is from the crossmember or frame.

For now, there is enough clearance so I haven't been compelled to chase it.

My fiberglass nose, bumper, and valence are all off. I plan to hang them again and see if a little weight changes anything.


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