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Old 11-21-2008, 01:29 AM
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It appears that the 5th character is a "strike" to obliterate /eliminate the number underneath?

That would make the # read 981348 which does NOT show up in my 67-75 Firebird MPC.

The "strike" could be taken for a 7,which would give us 9813748 which does NOT show up in the parts book either.

981148 DOES,but it's tow ball (trailer hitch accessory)

P/N listed in parts book is Group # 12.966 Rear end finish panel assembly 9851259 1970-73 ALL F.
(I am assuming this is the plastic one)
I just looked at one and found the same "strike" over the number.

On another note- two more possible unique items

1)OPH said on another recent thread that 70 had an odd length yoke on the driveshaft.
2)What about the vented gas cap? 70 only?

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Old 11-21-2008, 01:40 AM
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The 1970 gas cap vented (49 state) version is NOT used on any other 2ndgen Firebird.
Neither is the 1970 (eec) California version.

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Old 11-21-2008, 10:36 AM
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The 1970 gas cap vented (49 state) version is NOT used on any other 2ndgen Firebird.
Neither is the 1970 (eec) California version.
Anyone have a '70 vented gas cap to sell? I need one for my '70 T/A. Thanks!

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Old 11-21-2008, 10:33 PM
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With all of our lenghty list of '70 only parts, I don't recall seeing a mention of the '70 only quarter panels. Did I miss that one?

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Old 11-22-2008, 02:52 AM
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Transamric and CaptCrunch, just a followup to the small sway bar question. The build sheets broke the parts out into 2 digit codes for specific parts. What I had wondered about was do the small bar TAs have the Formula two character codes for what I had assumed were the sway bar portions of the build sheet, #17 "Stab Bar" and my guess for the rear sway bar, box #76 "Rear Control Arm" or did they have the TA codes on the sheet but still got the smaller bars?

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I'm not sure it helps. I have sheets for TA's that have 3 different codes in #17, FT--,FD--, & FW--. If box #76 is for the rear sway bars, & I'm not sure it is, I see all the TA's show PC & all the Formulas have --PB. Checking a few '71 Build Sheets doesn't seem to help either. Slight different layout has one box for both bars, #21. Looks like FT--40 for Trans Ams.

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I think I found one more thing, maybe two ? from the early built cars. The door sill plate / harness guard is much longer than standard, it extends all the way to the firewall. There is also an E-Brake cable cover where it goes out of the floor board.
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Transamric and CaptCrunch, just a followup to the small sway bar question. The build sheets broke the parts out into 2 digit codes for specific parts. What I had wondered about was do the small bar TAs have the Formula two character codes for what I had assumed were the sway bar portions of the build sheet, #17 "Stab Bar" and my guess for the rear sway bar, box #76 "Rear Control Arm" or did they have the TA codes on the sheet but still got the smaller bars?
My build sheet lists #17..... "FW40" and #76 "--PB"

and F41 SPC PERF SUSP

like I said my car got the big ones.......and with 14" JS Ralleye's

anybody know what 092 DECOR TAPE is??

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My build sheet lists #17..... "FW40" and #76 "--PB"

and F41 SPC PERF SUSP

like I said my car got the big ones.......and with 14" JS Ralleye's

anybody know what 092 DECOR TAPE is??
My guess is the (outside) door handle decal?

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My guess is the (outside) door handle decal?
I was kinda thinking that..........

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correct blue trunk release button (got one) didn't know about the hood springs/hinges, I have a set outside......wasn't there something with the seat belt retainers in the celing? also maybe this was already mentioned, but 2 belts / side...thick grip stearing wheel

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Old 11-23-2008, 01:40 PM
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I think I found one more thing, maybe two ? from the early built cars. The door sill plate / harness guard is much longer than standard, it extends all the way to the firewall. There is also an E-Brake cable cover where it goes out of the floor board.
I have seen these longer plates myself. Have a set.. I think they were left over from 69 or wre cross used from other Pontiac models when supplys of teh regular ones were short.. but yes, those were used. really doesn't matter which one you use though.. we are sort of splitting hairs when we start worrying about parts that wil never be seen and have no effect on performance...just my 2c

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Don't 70 TA hoods have 2 square holes instead of 4 (71-76) on the underside front section?

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No Steve, other way around. '70-72 hoods had two squarish holes in the bottom, leading edge. '73, or late '72, started the four hole design. Another obvious difference is the round vs. oval hole a bit further back & biased to the drivers side, than the other holes you mentioned. Early hoods have a round hole, the later style have an oval hole.

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No Steve, other way around. '70-72 hoods had two squarish holes in the bottom, leading edge. '73, or late '72, started the four hole design. Another obvious difference is the round vs. oval hole a bit further back & biased to the drivers side, than the other holes you mentioned. Early hoods have a round hole, the later style have an oval hole.
the round hole vs the oval hole is not on the drivers side, it is the passengers side and is just foward of the scoop opening ,on the passengers side. and yes, 'ric is correct. 70 -71ish(sometime in 72 started changing) has 2 square holes not 4.
Steve.... did you just find out one of your Formulas has a later hood?? happened to me a couple years ago. hated it ...really thought,as we all do, that my car was all original only to find the hood had been replaced among other items..
original,usable 70-72 hoods can be hard to find. they have a habbit of rusting around the edges and/or at the mounting points.... good luck...

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Nope, sorry RAIII, but you need to go out & look at your TA or std. FB hoods again, like I just did. The oval &/or round hole I'm referring to is biased to the DRIVERS (left) side of the hood.

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Steve.... did you just find out one of your Formulas has a later hood??
Nope... all my hoods are the original hoods.

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Nope, sorry RAIII, but you need to go out & look at your TA or std. FB hoods again, like I just did. The oval &/or round hole I'm referring to is biased to the DRIVERS (left) side of the hood.
well I seem to be quite proficient at ramming my foot into my big mouth..and apparently I have done it again.. yes, my 3 early hoods all have the round hole on the drivers side, you were correct and i was wrong...

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No harm.......no foul!! You did get me wondering though. Had to go out & check mine before I reposted. At 57 Y.O., could be brain fade!

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No harm.......no foul!! You did get me wondering though. Had to go out & check mine before I reposted. At 57 Y.O., could be brain fade!
a few years younger, but the same here.. plus it is 18 degrees here and i am sure some are laughing at me for whining about 18... but here in the south...that was one cold walk out to the shop....we are used to 50 degree Januarys.....

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