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1971-72 Pontiac Grandville under hood cowl to fender brace
Why is it that there was only a brace on the passenger side and none on drivers side?Does anyone know and why arent there any braces on the 1973 on up cars.I dont know if Catalinas had then either or not.Does anyone have one they want to sell.Id like to put one on the drivers side also.Thanks for any help anyone can give on info on this.Thanks
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Most B-body cars to my knowledge in '71-72 came with both fender braces, but the driver side interferes with the battery replacement so most people tossed them and didn't put them back on. It helps keep the fenders aligned with the firewall and the hood\core support all straight. I think several people I know of have posted pictures of their '71-72 cars with only the passenger brace and no holes drilled or tapped for the driver side. I do not know why that was done as the majority of cars I've seen have all had the brace mountings if not both braces.
The fender distance and bracing changed in '73, they weren't as long and the frame changed slightly as well, which is probably why they were removed then. Wagons did have the braces on the frame in '73 though |
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The brace wouldent come close to where the battery is on the 72 grandville and is up by the radiator support whereas the brace coming from the firewall cowl mounts on the inner fenderwell and fender which is way back behind the battery
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71-72 had braces on both sides. There's no place for them to be drilled and tapped as they use U-bolts from the firewall fitting, and the braces slide under the wheel well to fender mount and again use u-bolts to mount.
If you look at the mounting hole about in the center of the wheel well, you'll notice a stamped-in notch in the fender for that brace to mount.
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My father bought his 72 grandville convertible new and it only had one brace and Ive seen other cars with only one brace and have never seen one with both braces.I wonder if they ran out of the one side on the assembly line but I would think they would both be the same and not rights or lefts.
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If the OP has a Facebook account, here's a good source for 71-76 B-body parts: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1780...?ref=bookmarks
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Thanks for the info.I always thought it was strange when he picked his car up at dealer that it only had one brace on passenger side but then I seen other cars at car shows that only had one brace also.
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This is my all original '71 Bonneville with the cowl braces. Hope the photo helps.
Dennis |
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Yup. Boy, that's purty! ;-)
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Thanks.I wonder why some had both braces and some only had the one side.By the way did your car come with the dual snorkel air cleaner or did you ad this and if so what was it removed from.
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My guess would be they all shipped with two and someone in the stealership body shop needed one for a collision repair.
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Did anyone notice also on these cars that there is another mount to place another underhood spring to pop the hood open on the front and to the right of the existing pop up spring as you are looking at it from the front of the car.Wonder if they thought maybe with that big long hood they might need 2 springs and then came up with one heavy duty spring and didnt need it
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Thats interesting.Thanks for the info
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That's interesting about the springs, I will have to look at my 71 Catalina when I get home to see if it looks like it had a 2nd spring at one time. From the only underhood shot I have on my HD you can see it was also missing both fender braces when I bought it, and it only has 37,000 miles on it.
It is a 455 duel exhaust car with the Freeway Enforcer package. The only service item I can see that the braces may interfere with is the distributor. But if that is the case why is only the drivers side usually missing? I bought a set of fender braces from here http://www.tseafoamo.com/ He specializes in 71 full size Pontiac parts. He want's $35 each for the braces if he still has them.
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Thanks for the info
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No, it came with a single snorkle air cleaner. The one on the car came off of a Grandville that I bought for parts back in the '80's. The lid is the original. I see in the picture I posted that my car has only one hood spring and you can see the provision for a second spring to the right (driver side) of the hood latch. Dennis |
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Cammerjeff what is the freeway enforcer package.When my father ordered his 72 Grandville convertible we had him order dual exhaust which I believe was $25 and also get the pontiac rally II mag wheels.I never liked the smooth hubcaps these cars came with.
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It's the cop car option. 455 4-barrel, heavy duty springs, radiator, battery, etc.
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