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Old 12-20-2021, 10:44 PM
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I decided to share with the py group pictures of my restored carburetor Ray Klemm restored it for me. My goal is to have car running by end of summer. I'm very close to stock and am very proud of my carburetor.
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7040270 has a metal fast idle cam from factory and a triangular retainer/washer on the slashed vent tube.
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Old 12-21-2021, 10:40 AM
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What is metal fastbidle cam look like?
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7040270 has a metal fast idle cam from factory and a triangular retainer/washer on the slashed vent tube.
Nice plating!
Can you please tell me what metal.fSt idle cam looks like. I will send original pics of my carb. I hope it's an easy fix.
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Old 12-21-2021, 11:50 AM
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7040270 has a metal fast idle cam from factory and a triangular retainer/washer on the slashed vent tube.
Nice plating!
I'm sure he will have carb functioning perfect

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Old 12-21-2021, 11:56 AM
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The triangle cover will be installed after testing, as far as the weight I'm checking with another source, if it needs one I will make it happen.

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Old 12-21-2021, 04:34 PM
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I must say that looks great!

I had been hoping to find a 7040270 for my car's original (as purchased, NOT built) YZ engine, but the stand in is a 7029270.

The attached image is to help only.
These details aren't worth sweating for most.

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I must say that looks great!

I had been hoping to find a 7040270 for my car's original (as purchased, NOT built) YZ engine, but the stand in is a 7029270.

The attached image is to help only.
These details aren't worth sweating for most.

Yes thank you. It will be corrected .

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Old 12-21-2021, 05:51 PM
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I'm certainly glad I have others here to point out what they think are flaws in my work, especially since none of them were here to actually see what I was doing, or the parts I was working with. I really understand why some others quit posting on this site, and honestly one reason why I don't post my work here.
The step cam has already been remedied and as far as the bowl vent, it's an illusion.

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7040270 has a metal fast idle cam from factory and a triangular retainer/washer on the slashed vent tube.
Nice plating!
I wouldn't lose to much sleep over it anyways,


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Old 12-21-2021, 06:32 PM
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I'm certainly glad I have others here to point out what they think are flaws in my work, especially since none of them were here to actually see what I was doing, or the parts I was working with. I really understand why some others quit posting on this site, and honestly one reason why I don't post my work here.
The step cam has already been remedied and as far as the bowl vent, it's an illusion.
I think you did GREAT job with what you started with. On most carbs I am with you if the function that is the purpose. In many cases little things are an upgrade over the old tech they had back then. With Ram Air and HO carbs however it is the little details that genuinely matter on these cars, Especially numbers matching cars. If this were my 0273 carb I'd want to know the little things wrong as it matters in judging scoring and claims of numbers matching originality etc. now if you changed jets or rods etc I could care less but if the goal of the owner is to restore it as it should be then those details really do matter. I am not criticizing your work at all either i think it looks incredible and will now consider sending you the three carbs I have (704023 7041267 and a 7029270), so please don't take it that way,


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Old 12-21-2021, 07:01 PM
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I wouldn't lose to much sleep over it (fast idle cam) anyways,
agreed.

That's what I tried to impress with my post - 'nacho kept asking what was the fast idle cam, so I offered the info.

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I'm certainly glad I have others here to point out what they think are flaws in my work, especially since none of them were here to actually see what I was doing, or the parts I was working with. I really understand why some others quit posting on this site, and honestly one reason why I don't post my work here.
The step cam has already been remedied and as far as the bowl vent, it's an illusion.
Why take such offense?

Maybe you missed my compliment?
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I must say that looks great!
Your client was asking for info, and maybe he hopes to have all the details ironed out so that his car rates well at shows... ??

Please let me point out that although my prior post did attempt to clarify what was previously mentioned, it was a post made as an earnest attempt to answer RamAirNacho's at the time unanswered (at least publicly) questions.

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I think you did GREAT job with what you started with. On most carbs I am with you if the function that is the purpose. In many cases little things are an upgrade over the old tech they had back then. With Ram Air and HO carbs however it is the little details that genuinely matter on these cars, Especially numbers matching cars. If this were my 0273 carb I'd want to know the little things wrong as it matters in judging scoring and claims of numbers matching originality etc. now if you changed jets or rods etc I could care less but if the goal of the owner is to restore it as it should be then those details really do matter. I am not criticizing your work at all either i think it looks incredible and will now consider sending you the three carbs I have (7040273 7041267 and a 7029270), so please don't take it that way,
Quoted in it's entirety, because I whole heartedly agree with this.

I especially like that this wasn't overdone like so many seen on ebay of recent years.
If you will humour my opinion without taking offence, the throttle plates might be a bit too bright, but they sure look a whole lot better than rusty originals, or the awful gold anodized ones that so many seem to do lately.

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agreed.

That's what I tried to impress with my post - 'nacho kept asking what was the fast idle cam, so I offered the info.



Why take such offense?

Maybe you missed my compliment?
I'll quote it for you:


Your client was asking for info, and maybe he hopes to have all the details ironed out so that his car rates well at shows... ??

Please let me point out that although my prior post did attempt to clarify what was previously mentioned, it was a post made as an earnest attempt to answer RamAirNacho's at the time unanswered (at least publicly) questions.



Quoted in it's entirety, because I whole heartedly agree with this.

I especially like that this wasn't overdone like so many seen on ebay of recent years.
If you will humour my opinion without taking offence, the throttle plates might be a bit too bright, but they sure look a whole lot better than rusty originals, or the awful gold anodized ones that so many seem to do lately.
He guys stop this. I choose him to build it and he is good ,the carburetor isn't done yet so please stop negative criticism . It's not for sale nor the car and is correct for my car.
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Very impressive. Restored Carbs sometimes do not look "NOS" but this is too nice to run!

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I think you did GREAT job with what you started with. On most carbs I am with you if the function that is the purpose. In many cases little things are an upgrade over the old tech they had back then. With Ram Air and HO carbs however it is the little details that genuinely matter on these cars, Especially numbers matching cars. If this were my 0273 carb I'd want to know the little things wrong as it matters in judging scoring and claims of numbers matching originality etc. now if you changed jets or rods etc I could care less but if the goal of the owner is to restore it as it should be then those details really do matter. I am not criticizing your work at all either i think it looks incredible and will now consider sending you the three carbs I have (704023 7041267 and a 7029270), so please don't take it that way,
Thank you very much! I get it, and I do try to make them as close to original as I can with the parts I've got, This particular carburetor came in with just an empty bracket on the side and a piece of broken copper wire attached to the bowl vent. It took me a bit of time to come up with the missing parts, the plastic cam was all I had but I now have a metal one which will be installed. The top bowl vent is an illusion as far as depth goes, and the reason the triangle cover isn't on is because I still need to test and dial in the carburetor before I ship it out.

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agreed.

That's what I tried to impress with my post - 'nacho kept asking what was the fast idle cam, so I offered the info.



Why take such offense?

Maybe you missed my compliment?
I'll quote it for you:


Your client was asking for info, and maybe he hopes to have all the details ironed out so that his car rates well at shows... ??

Please let me point out that although my prior post did attempt to clarify what was previously mentioned, it was a post made as an earnest attempt to answer RamAirNacho's at the time unanswered (at least publicly) questions.



Quoted in it's entirety, because I whole heartedly agree with this.

I especially like that this wasn't overdone like so many seen on ebay of recent years.
If you will humour my opinion without taking offence, the throttle plates might be a bit too bright, but they sure look a whole lot better than rusty originals, or the awful gold anodized ones that so many seem to do lately.
Thank you, it wasn't a great day and I jumped in a bit over my head before reasoning a rational response.
I agree in that there are quite a few restorers who really pour on the gold. On later carbs I've actually had the correct color mixed up for the links as well as pump arms, although its not Teflon like the factory used. Again, the lighting in my shop can create bright or dim shots and I just use my phone for taking photos. Thank you for the compliment.

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68 and 69 used the plastic type fast idle bobber, like Nacho's picture displayed.
70 used metal , on all 1970 Pontiac Qjets.

Its just a friendly helpful point to make towards such a well restored and bonafide real McCoy.
I think its great that it was able to be corrected while the builder still had possession.
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Seems like the old plastic cams were the subject of a recall due to cracking?

I think what the guys are trying to convey, Ray, is that when you are doing this level of work, you are bound to run into guys. Guys like in this photo, who are 5 deep giving this poor car a procto at this summer's GTOAA!
Maybe someday I will be able to subject my 'bird to this sort of scrutiny??
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Seems like the old plastic cams were the subject of a recall due to cracking?

I think what the guys are trying to convey, Ray, is that when you are doing this level of work, you are bound to run into guys. Guys like in this photo, who are 5 deep giving this poor car a procto at this summer's GTOAA!
Maybe someday I will be able to subject my 'bird to this sort of scrutiny??

Yes, I found out today that all 67, 68, and some 69 models had plastic cams, 1969 was the year that Rochester made the switch, so from part way in 69 on they came with metal cams.
I'm always learning.

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