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Rocker stud length for Speedmaster / Edelbrock round ports?
Good morning all!
I’ve tried to find the info searching but came up empty. Came you guys tell me what length rocker stud I’d need for the Speedmaster heads? I’ll be using the Ferrea valves with the RAIV length stems. Shooting for 1.8 valve spring installed height & will be using Crower 1.7 aluminum roller rockers. How do you figure out the height? Trial & error or is there a way to calculate it? Now for the bonus questions. 😁 At what point does it help to go to a 2.19 intake valve? Thanks & Merry Christmas! Murf |
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Will you be using a stud girdle?
Unless your looking to make over 650 hp and very well port the heads, then there’s no need for a 2.19” intake valve.
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Murf,
I talked to Butlers about the Speed Master heads that they are now carrying and they use the ARP 100-7101 Pontiac Rocker studs 7/16 X 7/16 1.900. Jim
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Thanks Jim!
Hi Steve, Not using a stud girdle. Jim has answered the stud question. As far as the 600 HP IDK. My tentative plan is a 474 or maybe 488 with these heads. 236/242 on 112 with right a .600 lift. For intakes I have an RPM, Torker 2 and a Knockoff big single plane that looks kinda like a Tomahawk. 1 7/8 headers. Is that enough motor to benefit from the 2.19 intake? I have to buy valves anyway, so I thought I’d ask about the 2.19. Thanks for your thoughts! Murf |
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I used ARP-334-7203, Rocker Arm Studs, Pro Series, 7/16-20 in. Thread, 2.10 in. Effective Stud Length, Kit, on my edelbrock round ports.
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With what it seems those heads flow out of the box and in regards to running that Cam that you are using with its .600" lift and the option for a better Manifold then the Torquer II ( restriction ) your motor should make 575 hp.
In regards to the bigger valve and for safety sake ( so the seat is not too thin and drops out) I would first want to know the the Intake seat OD in those heads is at least 2.240"
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Wernher Von Braun warned before his retirement from NASA back in 1972, that the next world war would be against the ETs! And he was not talking about 1/8 or 1/4 mile ETs! 1) 1940s 100% silver 4 cup tea server set. Two dry rotted 14 x 10 Micky Thompson slicks. 1) un-mailed in gift coupon from a 1972 box of corn flakes. Two pairs of brown leather flip flops, never seen more then 2 mph. Education is what your left with once you forget things! |
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Jim, are you using those studs? I noticed they say they don’t have the shank for the guide plates. Just wondering if they really work.
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Murf |
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No problem. I spent hours searching my email account looking for my old summit order. I had to sort through thousands of emails from various women calling me "stud." But then it finally hit me, no one has ever called me "ARP" so that made it easy to find
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ARP 7203 or 7103 seems to click in my mind also.
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Murf,
Not sure as they will be delivered today Tuesday. I will let you know when I get them! Butlers just said that this is what they were using I had originally ordered another number they were out of stock at the time and Chuck Smith from Butlers said they were using these? again I will let you know! Jim
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Jim Moshier 1971 Grand Prix 462ci SD Performance 6x heads 1962 Catalina 389 1968 Firebird 400-455 I haven't decided "If we ever forget that we're one nation under GOD, then we will be a nation gone under." - Ronald Reagan |
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Murf, this is what they look like!
Jim
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Jim Moshier 1971 Grand Prix 462ci SD Performance 6x heads 1962 Catalina 389 1968 Firebird 400-455 I haven't decided "If we ever forget that we're one nation under GOD, then we will be a nation gone under." - Ronald Reagan |
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[QUOTE=Jim Moshier;6304484]Murf, this is what they look like!
Jim[/QUOTE Thanks Jim! I have have misspoke on the guide plate deal. Summit listed them as No for guide plates but others list it for use with guide plates. Thanks again Jim & Merry Christmas to all! Murf |
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Thanks again Murf |
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The only potential down side is waste of money for no added, or very little power gain if that bigger valve is just shrouded by the chamber, which a flow test would need to be done to determine.
If the stock chamber is not already ideally unshrouded for a 2.11” valve then you will likely not gain anything but added compression from running the larger valve,
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Wernher Von Braun warned before his retirement from NASA back in 1972, that the next world war would be against the ETs! And he was not talking about 1/8 or 1/4 mile ETs! 1) 1940s 100% silver 4 cup tea server set. Two dry rotted 14 x 10 Micky Thompson slicks. 1) un-mailed in gift coupon from a 1972 box of corn flakes. Two pairs of brown leather flip flops, never seen more then 2 mph. Education is what your left with once you forget things! |
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