[gtorich]

Just curios, has anyone gotten an engine built from butler in the last 3 years, everytime i email them about an engine being built, i get, you need to order from such a date..................i call on that date, and get we are already booked for that year.............guess i will have to try for 2024.

Rich

[Dragncar]

Get someone else to do it. What is the big deal about Butler having to rebuild anyone's engine ?

[Gach]

Yep been hearing that all to often, their book solid for a year. They don’t just do Pontiac engines.

[Goatracer1]

Butler is big into LS engines now. You don't have to have a "Pontiac" engine builder. It's nice but not necessary. The best engine I ever had built was not built by a Pontiac person but by someone who really knew what he was doing and then dynoed before released to me. That engine was raced for 4 years and has been driven so far 21 years on the street.

[Gach]

There’s more money in building LS engines and BBC then building Pontiac engines Only problem is finding a that good engine builder in your area. Ask Chiarelli..LOL

[64speed]

Where are you located?

[indymanjoe]

i would get ahold of Paul Knippen's Muscle Motors in Sandwich, IL

[tom s]

Paul is in TX now!Tom

[Don 79 TA]

try Richie H in Long Island?
there'res many others as well, and lately i've seen some smaller shops that show videos of rebuilding pontiacs, good to see the little shops stepping in to, search youtube
never know with this economy some may be looking for work
i'll admit i get envious and jealous when i see Shafiroffs website, sometimes they have killer deals on complete engines. don't know how accurate their claims are power wise, but the options for the BBC/SBC sure can make one envious.

[grivera]

Next build I’m doing assembly - just gotta find a good machine shop near by.

[72projectbird]

Originally Posted by grivera

Next build I’m doing assembly - just gotta find a good machine shop near by.

Well that's just blasphemy! Don't you know only professional Pontiac builders can build Pontiac engines? They're extremely complicated don't ya know? lol

[PAUL K]

You have several great options in your home State.

BOP

Luhn

Wayne Schicantek
4148019230

[64-3Deuces]

Originally Posted by tom s

Paul is in TX now!Tom

Yes, I heard that he moved but a profile search as of 7/9/23 indicated that he is in Canoga Park, California. Of course that was almost three months ago and maybe he didn't like Cali and moved to Texas like so many others.

I was planning to get some work done at his shop as Sandwich is just several towns over from me-----as usual I'm a day late and a dollar short.

[61-63]

Paul Spots or Jim Robertson in Abilene Texas

[400 Lemans]

https://www.facebook.com/brentwilliam.flynn Just a few hours from you in Middletown, In. Specializes in Pontiac builds.

[hurryinhoosier62]

Originally Posted by grivera

Next build I’m doing assembly - just gotta find a good machine shop near by.

Good luck. They are getting harder and harder to find. The two I use are up in years; Linus is 72; Gerald is in his mid eighties.

[gtorich]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

You have several great options in your home State.

BOP

Luhn

Wayne Schicantek
4148019230

Thanks for the info guys..............i had wayne do a engine in 2007............not gonna get into it but a few issues..............would rather try somewhere else.............i know a few guys that had motors built by wayne, top notch............cant say that for mine...............thinking of calling wayne again, try to patch things up and maybe try again.

Rich

[Gach]

Originally Posted by gtorich

Thanks for the info guys..............i had wayne do a engine in 2007............not gonna get into it but a few issues..............would rather try somewhere else.............i know a few guys that had motors built by wayne, top notch............cant say that for mine...............thinking of calling wayne again, try to patch things up and maybe try again.

Rich

unfortunately Rich that’s how it goes

[kingbuzzo]

Did you consider Len Williams in OK...maybe too far

[turbo69bird]

Originally Posted by kingbuzzo

Did you consider Len Williams in OK...maybe too far

I’ve heard really good things about LEN. .

In the north east
Established in 1969
Leifert auto machine Torrington CT.
Been doing all my machine and sometimes even my partial assembly for 35 years

My turbo engine has been bulletproof!!! Larry used to do all the GT1 road race engines and has done many 24 hr race engines. ( This includes Paul Newman’s the actors race engines )
A new person who had been around Larry for years (Trevor) took over and I was nervous w the change over at first but he’s really good , Larry’s been training him for years now and Larry’s brother eddy is still there doing assembly.

I’ve done engjnes for customers there as well . Never once was unhappy with the machine work or an engine I had come from that shop.

Course I don’t care where you go or how good of parts you use, if you screw up the tune it’s living on borrowed time, same goes with a good cooling system. Some things just can’t be blamed on the machinist or engine builder. Other things can.