['ol Pinion head]

Originally Posted by PB

When and where was your car built? My 72 HO lemans built Jan of 72 in Fremont has KR's dated 12/29/70.

There is a reason for that. When the '71 T/A's came out in Aug '70, the 15x7 Honeycombs that had been advertised in brochures were not avail. Then there was the Fall of '70 strike & when Motorwheel started rallyII wheel production back up in early Nov of '70 they cranked out KU coded 14x6's & a few runs of KR's. 15x7 Honeycombs finally came avail in the later winter & dealers started ordering them on a big % of '71 T/A's, some Formula's & on a few GTO hardtops. There ended up being a a big stock of these Dec '70 dated KR's and all A & F plants that used them installed them til supplies got lower. I have a 7/21/71 KR, so obviously Motorwheel ran some at the date, still I've examined numerous Dec '70 KR's on mid production '72 models. Hope this helps.

[70RAlll]

Originally Posted by comanchefirebird

Hi
I'm still hunting for one more JW dated 4 27. Any help is much appreciated.
Thanks, Steve

I have a single 4/13..and truth be told, a good percentage of our cars came with mismatched wheels. I have seen one survivor low mile TA that had 3 4/13's and two 4/07(or 8).. So having perfectly matching dates may not be 100% as delivered..Just a thought..sure there will be those who disagree.. You are welcome to PM me with an offer..it is an unscared/pitted wheel

[74 SD455 Formula]

Originally Posted by PB

When and where was your car built? My 72 HO lemans built Jan of 72 in Fremont has KR's dated 12/29/70.

Pat,
I'm not sure when the car was built,but it was delivered to the dealership in early May of 72 and was built in Pontiac. The VIN. is 2D37X2P. If that helps. My car was ordered with 15" Honeycomb's which I still have on the car.I Just wanted some correct KR's to change up the look.

[RamAirPwr]

Originally Posted by RamAirPwr

Need a 5/25 to complete my set...any help would be greatly appreciated

Bump

[RAJ7395]

Add this date to the list. This is a very late JW date but appears to be genuine.

[Transamric]

Originally Posted by 70RAlll

I have a single 4/13..and truth be told, a good percentage of our cars came with mismatched wheels. I have seen one survivor low mile TA that had 3 4/13's and two 4/07(or 8).. So having perfectly matching dates may not be 100% as delivered..Just a thought..sure there will be those who disagree.

Agreed. I know of a one family owned Van Nuys '71 TA with 2 JW's and 2 KN's. Not recalling if I've ever asked what the spare is or if it had the Space Saver option.

[Judge273]

What's the story on the option "handling package" on a formula. Does that mean it had 14 rally iI wheels atandard? But, if also listed on Phs is rally II does that mean 15 wheels?

[The Boss]

The tires will tell you which wheels it got Mike.

[Judge273]

No tires listed just handling and rally's both same price too listed on phs for a 72 Formula?

[2manyT/A'S]

Originally Posted by Judge273

What's the story on the option "handling package" on a formula. Does that mean it had 14 rally iI wheels atandard? But, if also listed on Phs is rally II does that mean 15 wheels?

Y99 (331) is the code for the 71-72 Formula Handling Package...$205.37.

1971 Pontiac Selling facts (Jan 4,71) states that it came with 15" Honeycombs,F60x 15 white letter tires ,HD sway bars & springs..no mention of Rally II's....

It basically upgraded the Formula to Trans am suspension/wheels/tires....

[The Boss]

Originally Posted by 2manyT/A'S

Y99 (331) is the code for the 71-72 Formula Handling Package...$205.37.

1971 Pontiac Selling facts (Jan 4,71) states that it came with 15" Honeycombs,F60x 15 white letter tires ,HD sway bars & springs..no mention of Rally II's....

It basically upgraded the Formula to Trans am suspension/wheels/tires....

71 Y-96 included the TA's sway bars, rear springs, the 15" Honey's and the tires $205.36
72 Y-99 included the TA's sway bars, rear springs, no Honey's and the 15" tires? $87.00

[Judge273]

Code 332 in 72 for handling package for 87.00 and rally II code 474 for 87.00 on Phs?

[Judge273]

I have seen on other PHS for 72 Formulas it listed 3 ways.

Y99 w/ Rally IIs listed
Y99 w/ Honeys listed
Y99 w/ no wheels listed? Caps and Steel?

All were 15" wheels. I think

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by Judge273

I have seen on other PHS for 72 Formulas it listed 3 ways.

Y99 w/ Rally IIs listed
Y99 w/ Honeys listed
Y99 w/ no wheels listed? Caps and Steel?

All were 15" wheels. I think

Yep . . .

1970 and 1971 Formulas with handling package got you Rally IIs, 1972 Formula Handling Package got you plain steelies and pov caps unless you ordered up the Rally IIs or Honeys as a separate option.

[Judge273]

Thanks Lloyd! That helps a lot, and makes sense too. 15" for all?

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by Judge273

15" for all?

Yep.

As Chris posted above, the Y96 or Y99 package got you the entire T/A suspension, front and rear - springs, shocks, stabilizer bars and, of course, the 15" tires.

[pmdclassics]

Originally Posted by FunctionalShaker

It's nice to help each other out. Unfortunately, some guys hoard parts and pretend like they're made of gold. They'll never use them, but they won't give someone who needs them a deal.

Life's too short. We came with nothing. We leave with nothing.

I remember Don Keefe had a nice article on this topic a couple years ago in Smoke Signals. Don convinced me it was time to go through my NOS stuff and sell what I would more than likely never use.

[Judge273]

I need 4/5 KR's dated around 11/71 if anyone gets the itch to unload.....

['ol Pinion head]

Originally Posted by Judge273

I need 4/5 KR's dated around 11/71 if anyone gets the itch to unload.....

Yet to run across any KR's produced in Fall of '71. On Fall of '71 into early winter original built '72 cars, I've run across several original matching sets of 12/30/70's, 5/29/71, & 7/7/71 dated KR's. Over the years, have had complete sets of all, along with one original dated mixed set of three 12/30's & two 12/29's. Have an extra 7/7/71 KR I'd let go, will ck with friend that recently picked up a KR see what it is. My only other extra KR's are late Feb & one 3/25/72?

[Transamric]

Originally Posted by Lloyd-TX

Yep . . .

1970 and 1971 Formulas with handling package got you Rally IIs, 1972 Formula Handling Package got you plain steelies and pov caps unless you ordered up the Rally IIs or Honeys as a separate option.

X2, FWIW.